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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:34 pm

Good to see activity starting. Great work Tarpy with the Tech Editor page.

Thanks Oliveriver for offering to do that. I'll be able to get some updates in later this week as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:21 am

I have begun working on the tech tree page. I do not know how to convert graphml into a png/gif file, so I can't place a picture of the tech tree there. If someone could give me the tech tree in a format I can put on the wiki as the picture, I would be happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:44 am

To be honest, I'm not a fan of the Wikia layout. With the bar at the top suggesting other wikis, the side bar begging me to add photos and offering a useless chat, and even more Wikia stuff at the bottom, it seems really clutttered. Is there any way to disable at least some of those?

If you really want to go forward with this move, the most important thing would be a proper main page that gives a bird's eye overview of the wiki's contents. The homepage on the old wiki is too detailed. A (very) short paragraph describing Thrive and a table of contents should suffice.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:11 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try and get that up on the main page as soon as I can.

The wikia host can be quite cluttered, but I think that wikidot was quite bland. If you wish, join the wikia and I could mod you, and see if you can find ways to disable the useless UI elements. I will try to figure out how to do some of it myself.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:35 am

As I was thinking of some other way to aid development, I remembered that the Wiki was still part way through renovation. As such, I have decided to list every page that I can think of that needs to be on the Wiki - eventually, it will need to become a depository for both developers and fans, including every agreed aspect of the game while explaining basic concepts to newcomers. Here's all I managed to come up. Sections in bold are pages, while sections not in bold are just used to categorise everything. The dashes show how each page is nested within the sections. Select a page, then go up until you get to the first line with less dashes than there are before that page. That's the section it's categorised under.

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I'll get writing some, but obviously I won't be able to do it alone (partly because I don't know much about half the stuff here, and partly because IT WOULD TAKE AGES). Anyone with sufficient knowledge of the project can submit a page to someone with an account on the Wiki, and providing it explains what it needs to explain, it can be published.

We basically want the Wiki to be able to teach someone with the appropriate skills everything about making Thrive. This list is a start, but I'm certain I've forgotten some things, and there are many others that haven't even been discussed yet.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:12 pm

Excellent work Oliver!

I'll definitely update this to the OP to use as a means of keeping track of what new pages to work on. I think I might even get started on some of these right away.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:01 am

Finished fossilization page.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:14 am

Great job ~scio. Were you able to check through other pages and link to the fossilization page?

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:33 am

It says ''no page found''. Why?
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:43 am

http://thrivegame.wikidot.com/search:site/q/fossilization

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:29 am

Wait, so are we using the new Wikia page or the old Wikidot one?
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:05 am

Wikia is for the gaming community wiki, wikidot is for the developer wiki. This is because ads were heavy on wikia and it was not possible to limit editing rights to specific members.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:19 am

I've written the FAQ and Important Links pages, I just need to actually create them on the Wiki. I'll also edit the home page to link to them. However, I'll need to be added to the group of contributors who can edit the Wiki before I can do anything, unless I give what I've written to someone else with a login.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:07 pm

Great idea, Oliver. This list will assuredly help streamline the wiki building process. I'll take a look at what I can write soon.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:43 am

Oliver, I don't know how to add you to the wiki team, actually I don't think I can add you, but if you post it here or PM me I can put it on the wiki.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:08 pm

I will also write and post the expanded version of the tech editor page of the developer wiki here on this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:33 am

That sounds good.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:22 am

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Oliver, I don't know how to add you to the wiki team, actually I don't think I can add you, but if you post it here or PM me I can put it on the wiki.
I sent you a PM with the FAQ and Important Links pages, although you might have to edit the home page as well to link to them.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:16 am

Thanks, but I posted it on the Home page, because I don't think it was significant enough to get its own page, and it would be found more easily on the home page. I also shortened the FAQ to a link, otherwise it would take a very large amount of space.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:07 pm

Sorry for my absence and lack of contribution recently. I hope to be a lot more active soon, especially in the run up to Christmas and the period afterwards.

Anyway, since the number of Wiki pages actually written from the list I compiled a while ago has been substantially lower than what I'd hoped, I've decided to get back to writing some. Here are some more which someone with Wiki access can add, and I hope to continue writing them in the following weeks. I've added notes about linking in square brackets. I'm probably not the most knowledgeable on many of the subjects outlined, so suggestions on edits by those with knowledge will be a lot better.

Animation
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Art Style
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Concept Art
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Thrive Abbreviations Dictionary
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Revolutionary Games
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As the project draws closer to an early release/prototype (how's that coming along by the way?), I strongly believe what we need the most is some sort of organisation to how everything should progress. The nature of Thrive's development means that this is a difficult task, but the Wiki is definitely a plausible solution. While the programming progresses, GUI, menus, cutscenes, tutorials, credits, art assets and music will all have to be worked on.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:54 am

Great work Oliver! Good to see some updates being made to the wiki, although updates to the aware stage pages (biomes, auto-evo, pop dynamics, etc.) are sorely needed. We'll have to discuss that soon.

I do have some changes to suggest for your entries. I'll PM you the details tomorrow (it's quite late here).

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:58 pm

I've also just completed the Development History page:

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As I wasn't around during most of the project's early years, I've probably made several mistakes. Most of the information was found on old websites, threads and the Devblog, along with my own experience more recently.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:19 pm

Sorry for the late reply. I will be gone for the next couple days, but when I get back I will check this over and PM you my response.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:57 am

I've just finished the german version of the wiki-homepage. Here it is:

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If someone can speak german and has the time to read it please let me know were I should improve myself, if it's good enough I'll put it on the wiki, ok?

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:15 am

Thanks for the work, but right now we don't need to translate the wiki, we need to update it. Plus, it has been pointed out that if we were to keep up a consistent translation effort of all of our pages into any languages available to be translated into, we would very quickly overflow the wiki with incredible amounts of pages, mostly repeats that are just in different languages. I think it would actually be better to just keep it all as English.

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