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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:12 pm

On the Wiki, there isn't section for biomes on the nav bar. I think this should be included, and biome information compiled into that section.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:15 am

Well, from what I remember from what ~scio said, biomes won't be strictly defined, as in there will be no presets that will be shuffled and generated. Instead, the world will be covered with moisture maps, resource maps, temperature maps, etc, and then the computer will distinguish all similar areas into biomes, so they will be procedurally generated. Having said that, I think it is very important we get an update on the wiki entry for biomes explaining this, and maybe going into a bit more depth as to how this random generation would work and how the computer would identify biomes.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:44 am

I agree. I think we should view the wiki as our conclusive dev spec, so basically everything when decided on is updated there.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:05 pm

Okay, so a new task for people who aren't writing up pages for the wiki, you can suggest new wiki pages.

I can think of some we don't have right now, and I will add them to the OP, such as a page on Agents, a page on Organelles, and an update for the new Biome concept.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:51 pm

Big update on the wiki. Our current wiki is hosted on Wikidot. I propose a move to Wikia. Wikia wikis are free to create and maintain, have much more streamlined layouts, are easier to edit, handle photos and videos better, and just overall seems like a better choice for our official wiki. Now I know we have a lot already on Wikidot, but the amount of work required to copy over all our work is actually not that much. It's quite easy to copy over whole wiki entries, with maybe a couple of formatting changes to make. The only issue that would take some effort is the links. All the links would have to be changed to lead to their respective pages on Wikia, not on Wikidot.

If you want to decide for yourself, here are the links to the two sites. Try checking out an example Wikia wiki, and compare it to ours.

http://www.wikia.com/Wikia

http://www.wikidot.com/

I've put up a poll to see what you guys think. I personally would support a shift to Wikia, as I think it is easier to use, has more useful features, and looks more professional.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:03 am

I wholeheartedly agree. This would be a good move and speed up wiki updating considerably. I vote for a move to Wikia.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:06 am

I am much in favour of doing the difficult time consuming things now if it will pay off in the future. Especially as its summer holidays from uni and I have pretty much nothing to do all day.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:07 pm

I'd be willing to help move the content from wikidot to wikia if that's what is decided.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:39 am

Okay as long as there are no objections we will be moving our official wiki over to wikia. I'll create a page on there now.

All mods and team leads: Be sure to PM me with your usernames when you make Wikia accounts so that I can add you to the editing group for our wiki. Remember, every Team Lead ought to regularly update the wiki with concept from their field.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:32 am

I have sent a message to Wikia, asking for the currently inactive wiki page on Thrive to be removed so that we can use it, and am awaiting a response. It bothers me to have to wait, since I have some free time now to copy over content from the old wiki, but ah well.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:20 am

Sorry for the triple post, but apparently we already have a wiki on Wikia here:

http://thrivegame.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki

It hasn't been edited for 3 years. I could try and ask for an Adoption for that wiki, giving myself Admin rights which I would give to the other mods and team leads. However, that would take a while before I would even meet the prerequisites to even apply for an adoption.

Does anyone have the login info for our Wikia account? This does change things a bit. I'm going to have to update the poll now. At this point, if someone would like to object to moving to wikia, please post here.

Our choices are:

A) Make a new Wikia page called something like thrive-game.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki    *Note the hyphen in the URL. The title for the wiki can be the same, just the URL has to be unique. I personally prefer this one, because although it means a less simple URL, it also means we get all founder powers assuming there are some, and we avoid any and all complications and procedures to obtain one of those other pages.

B) Continue with the process of asking to take over the thrive.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki page. It is possible they would deny us. I personally think this one would be best as it has the best URL for when more people try and search up our wiki.

C) Attempt to adopt the old thrivegame.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki. This option would probably take the most time and effort, and most of the pages that have already been done on it are old concept. It also means that if there are any founder powers, none of us can use them cause the founders are gone.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:27 am

Just get the first one, it's easiest and we don't have to wait for so long, besides, you'd have to completely redo the pages for the second option and we can't do anything with the third.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:21 am

If we go for A, we need to try and make sure that url B is taken down. We don't want two wikis up incase people land on the old one. I don't think they would deny us, if we show them the forum and prove we're the same team.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:28 pm

Change in plans, they actually accepted our request for the Thrive URL (thrive.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki)

However, they did more than I expected. Instead of just handing it over to us to control, they took it down so that we can make our own under the same name. That means no issues with founder rights. I am going to go ahead and make one under this name right now, just to secure it. Also, I think this effectively eliminates the need for option A.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:59 pm

The only other thing to consider is whether we would want to be revolutionarygames.wikia.com/wiki/thrive_wiki to tie in with the youtube channel and stuff?
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:19 pm

No, that would mean its the wiki for Revolutionary Games. We could create a separate wiki for that, and then give a link to the Thrive wiki, but I think the Thrive wiki should be named Thrive.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:34 pm

Ok fair enough. Then I agree with you.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:50 am

Okay so we now have a new wiki here:

http://thrive.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki?cb=497

It's almost completely barren, so we have to get to work on copying over the content from the old wiki. All Mods and Team Leads, can you please PM me your usernames or post them here. If you do not have Wikia accounts already, please create them, as it is important as a team lead or mod to regularly update the wiki from content from your field. It also greatly help speed up our progress to have a regularly updated and fleshed out wiki.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:53 am

We're not going to do like Spore wiki where there's a database of developer-made creatures and player-made creatures, will we? Because I'm under the assumption the computer will randomly generate species for every new game, rather than have developer made species.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:07 am

No we won't.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:43 pm

I'm bumping this to attract attention.

NickTheNick wrote:
Okay so we now have a new wiki here:

http://thrive.wikia.com/wiki/Thrive_Wiki?cb=497

It's almost completely barren, so we have to get to work on copying over the content from the old wiki. All Mods and Team Leads, can you please PM me your usernames or post them here. If you do not have Wikia accounts already, please create them, as it is important as a team lead or mod to regularly update the wiki from content from your field. It also greatly help speed up our progress to have a regularly updated and fleshed out wiki.

This is important stuff. Our new wiki is up and running, and I got everything sorted out and complete with the Wikia Support. Remember, the 3 ways to help are:

A) Suggest pages. Be aware though that this is a new wiki so most articles are currently missing. Refer to our wiki on Wikidot for the time being to see if something has a page on it yet or not.
B) Write skeleton articles. Put important info in bullet form, format it into the proper structure, and post links to the forum where necessary.
C) Write articles. Starting with a skeleton article or from scratch, make sure all the concept is clearly explained in full sentences and paragraphs, with proper formatting, and media where possible. Remember to link to other wiki pages where necessary and back to the forums to threads that are relevant.

EDIT: Also, yes, it is true, the wiki has an off-topic sub-forum. If any of you find this objectionable, then please convince me so, otherwise it will stay up to funnel away people on this forum who spend more time going off-topic and raising Belgium than actually contributing.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:06 am

Username is IncaUK.

If team leads could oversee the transition from old wiki to new for their section, that would be excellent.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:27 pm

I know I was supposed to write the tech editor article months ago, and I am sorry for failing to do so. I am making the article right now.

Things I will include for now would only be the basics of the tech editor/ introduction + the FP list and all of their technological requirements and sub-types, along with references to the threads on which these we're discussed.
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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:35 pm

I'll update and move the soundtrack page over to the new Wiki.

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PostSubject: Re: Revamping the Wiki   Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:12 pm

I have finished the tech editor page, so here is the link. Suggestion on improving it are welcome.
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