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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:45 am

I think it was called Watcher, it was a editor that had most functional basic but need some very major work done on it. I think we tried to contact the person who made it but I can't remember what he said.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:43 am

Watcher. That might be it. Anyways, the guy who had done the project gave up on it after the Spore creature creator came out. He said that he wouldn't be able to get close to that standard. As we want to get to a higher standard, i doubt he'll be willing to help. And if no one answered already, Bashi, that link was to a 2d program, yes.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:48 am

http://sites.google.com/site/brianskis22/
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:27 am

Bashinerox wrote:
http://sites.google.com/site/brianskis22/
That was it. What do you think of it, Bashi? I know it's completely different from our game now, but, technologically speaking, how does it look?

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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:38 pm

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http://sites.google.com/site/brianskis22/
That was it. What do you think of it, Bashi? I know it's completely different from our game now, but, technologically speaking, how does it look?

He put alot of work in it, it looks pretty cool, but we're going in a completely different direction procedurally. In order to get more realistic creatures, we have to alter the skin-wrapping algorithm. (the spore and watcher algorithms are metaball, which is a layer of 2 technologies.)

I'm going for a more complicated approach. I'm thinking the best way to achieve realistic wrapping is to take the metaball-points-at-evenly-space-intervals and rendering every internal bone/organ/muscle/whatever to a scalar field, then "metaballing" the field and producing a hull (kinda like an insane 3d spline)
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:26 pm

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InvaderZim wrote:
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Falthron wrote:
Can't find link but was mentioned in the EVO! forums. This guy was working on it during the development of spore, it had full 3-D. I tink he quit it after spore came out.

Huh. Interesting. Alaska will probably know he most about it. Any thoughts, Alaska?



Why would he know most about it?

He's apparently read every thread on the Evolutions forum. He might be able to point us to the right thread.


Well, the Evolutions forums were promptly wiped after our little rebellion, so we can't access it anymore.

What, completely wiped? Every thread before a certain point?


Yes. It's all thanks to our old "leader", Sven Littkowski. He was never there to admin the site. When we all agreed on chages to certain changes to the site, Sven ignored it. When we left, he made up a sad little story to tell his next subjects. He said we uploaded viruses and porn to his forum (or something along those lines) and he had to wipe it. In reality there was no viruses OR porn, but there was quite a bit of flaming.


I think it's his insane definition of the word "comedy".
Actually, some of the adbots were porn...
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:59 am

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Actually, some of the adbots were porn...
That may be true, but we did not upload or even link to any of those.

And that sounds scary complicated, Bashi. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:38 am

I think I understood that, Bashi. If I did, it sounds great!
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:26 pm

I can't open any of the files, not even the PNGs or MP3s. Something's probably wrong. What's probably wrong? Anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:22 am

Bashinerox wrote:
~sciocont wrote:
Bashinerox wrote:
http://sites.google.com/site/brianskis22/
That was it. What do you think of it, Bashi? I know it's completely different from our game now, but, technologically speaking, how does it look?

He put alot of work in it, it looks pretty cool, but we're going in a completely different direction procedurally. In order to get more realistic creatures, we have to alter the skin-wrapping algorithm. (the spore and watcher algorithms are metaball, which is a layer of 2 technologies.)

I'm going for a more complicated approach. I'm thinking the best way to achieve realistic wrapping is to take the metaball-points-at-evenly-space-intervals and rendering every internal bone/organ/muscle/whatever to a scalar field, then "metaballing" the field and producing a hull (kinda like an insane 3d spline)
I'm very happy that i understood almost all of that. I knew we wouldn't be using the direct metaballs approach, and i was going to ask you if we were using them and where, but now i don't need to.
Also, when the hull is created, the inner contents (bones, muscle, organs) will pretty much be gone during gameplay, right?

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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:24 pm

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I'm very happy that i understood almost all of that. I knew we wouldn't be using the direct metaballs approach, and i was going to ask you if we were using them and where, but now i don't need to.
Also, when the hull is created, the inner contents (bones, muscle, organs) will pretty much be gone during gameplay, right?



I think they will be, but they would be represented as a texture or something if something makes an organism's insides spill out.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:51 pm

DragonEye4 wrote:
InvaderZim wrote:
Bashinerox wrote:
InvaderZim wrote:
Bashinerox wrote:
InvaderZim wrote:
Bashinerox wrote:
Falthron wrote:
Can't find link but was mentioned in the EVO! forums. This guy was working on it during the development of spore, it had full 3-D. I tink he quit it after spore came out.

Huh. Interesting. Alaska will probably know he most about it. Any thoughts, Alaska?



Why would he know most about it?

He's apparently read every thread on the Evolutions forum. He might be able to point us to the right thread.


Well, the Evolutions forums were promptly wiped after our little rebellion, so we can't access it anymore.

What, completely wiped? Every thread before a certain point?


Yes. It's all thanks to our old "leader", Sven Littkowski. He was never there to admin the site. When we all agreed on chages to certain changes to the site, Sven ignored it. When we left, he made up a sad little story to tell his next subjects. He said we uploaded viruses and porn to his forum (or something along those lines) and he had to wipe it. In reality there was no viruses OR porn, but there was quite a bit of flaming.


I think it's his insane definition of the word "comedy".
Actually, some of the adbots were porn...

Sorry to be out of line here..... But Sven called us seeders of spam! That Germaican son of a....... I will track him down and rip him apart! I wonder what he's doing with his new little slaves.

Also, that 'project', is Sven's new revive of Evolutions!, his failed abortion of a hoax, don't even worry about it. Sven is a ghost of a shell of a man. A treacherous, apathetic shell of a man.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:31 pm

No, this SEED is not Sven's.



And... I trust you're not ACTUALLY going to rip him apart?


Though I would love to "rip him a new one"...
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:56 am

Don't worry about Sven, we're way farther than he is.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:17 pm

~sciocont wrote:
Don't worry about Sven, we're way farther than he is.

sorry to revive this but is he still working on evolutions?
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:22 pm

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~sciocont wrote:
Don't worry about Sven, we're way farther than he is.

sorry to revive this but is he still working on evolutions?
Yes, but it seems no one else is.

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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:00 pm

~sciocont wrote:
koiboi59 wrote:
~sciocont wrote:
Don't worry about Sven, we're way farther than he is.

sorry to revive this but is he still working on evolutions?
Yes, but it seems no one else is.

interesting, i'm going to go look on the old place just to see.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:03 am

koiboi59 wrote:
~sciocont wrote:
koiboi59 wrote:
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Don't worry about Sven, we're way farther than he is.

sorry to revive this but is he still working on evolutions?
Yes, but it seems no one else is.

interesting, i'm going to go look on the old place just to see.


Me too.


EDIT: Wait, no. I can't. I deleted the bookmark and I'm too lazy to find the link.


EDIT OF EDIT: I checked the thread on the Sporum for the link. Get this- *lulz* THEY LOCKED IT!
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:44 am

InvaderZim wrote:
koiboi59 wrote:
~sciocont wrote:
koiboi59 wrote:
~sciocont wrote:
Don't worry about Sven, we're way farther than he is.

sorry to revive this but is he still working on evolutions?
Yes, but it seems no one else is.

interesting, i'm going to go look on the old place just to see.


Me too.


EDIT: Wait, no. I can't. I deleted the bookmark and I'm too lazy to find the link.


EDIT OF EDIT: I checked the thread on the Sporum for the link. Get this- *lulz* THEY LOCKED IT!

I'm pretty sure the thread was eaten by Melvin (the infamous Sporum Glitch that deletes threads at random), whether before or afterwards.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:29 am

WOW, it still seems to be creeping along at a snails pace. i mean most of the topics haven't been commented on since the whole splitting up, but there are a few that were commented recently like a few days ago. either way, it seems very unproductive and i doubt it will ever be completed (i also discovered that we are missing bzflater just from looking at the forum). i don't think sven will be able to complete evolutions at all. the forum is still up and so is the website. a lot of new people joined but they posted in only a few topics (most were a month or two ago) and i guess they were expecting a response from us. it doesn't matter though, i just thought it was interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:51 pm

BZFlater... that's the name I had forgoten. Odd fellow, but he certainly cared about this project. Wonder what happened to him?

Anyway, we've got Sven in a pretty tight place. Nowhere to turn- he has hardly any members, and they aren't commited AT ALL... I guess we've won!


*Irish accent* Now, would you kindly all get back on topic?


Wait, wrong forum for that...
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:56 pm

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BZFlater... that's the name I had forgoten. Odd fellow, but he certainly cared about this project. Wonder what happened to him?

Anyway, we've got Sven in a pretty tight place. Nowhere to turn- he has hardly any members, and they aren't commited AT ALL... I guess we've won!


*Irish accent* Now, would you kindly all get back on topic?


Wait, wrong forum for that...
I think this thread is really about finding old members, or people with similar ideas to us and getting them on board here. Was BZ ever on the Sporums?
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:00 pm

US_of_Alaska wrote:
InvaderZim wrote:
BZFlater... that's the name I had forgoten. Odd fellow, but he certainly cared about this project. Wonder what happened to him?

Anyway, we've got Sven in a pretty tight place. Nowhere to turn- he has hardly any members, and they aren't commited AT ALL... I guess we've won!


*Irish accent* Now, would you kindly all get back on topic?


Wait, wrong forum for that...
I think this thread is really about finding old members, or people with similar ideas to us and getting them on board here. Was BZ ever on the Sporums?

i am not sure. i also discovered we are missing falling whale (well he was a lurker but he engaged in some conversations), icantguess, redstar (but he has a life so i can understand that), every mod, and i am sure there are some others, i'll do more research on the old forum.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:10 pm

Well, all the main folks are back. And Falling Whale? I don't remember a single time in my time in this project that saw him post- but I know who he is.

If anyone could direct me to Sven's forum, I'd do a little recruitment and a little searching for old members.
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PostSubject: Re: [ARC] There seems to be another project out with the same goals as us   Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:16 pm

Sven's forum has fallen into chaos. I don't think I've seen any of the old members still on that forum.
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