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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Tue May 24, 2011 7:53 pm

Issue, biome change? how?
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Tue May 24, 2011 9:00 pm

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Issue, biome change? how?
Calli's working on it.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Wed May 25, 2011 10:20 am

Yup. When I've got something, I'll start a new thread and show it to you all. Until then, MOAR BIOMES PLZ.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Wed May 25, 2011 12:16 pm

I had a concept idea for a biome, I'm still half asleep here, but what if the plantes surface was, instead of granate, a sort of magnetic rock. If it's [magnetic] properties were strong enough, a chunk of itself could essencially float above itself: thus getting the famed "floating island" that everyone wants to see (you know you do).
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Wed May 25, 2011 1:25 pm

Not to shoot things down here, but that's a) probably not possible with the physics we need to include here and b) not really a biome, as it covers the whole planet.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Wed May 25, 2011 1:54 pm

Well, it was just an idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 2:29 pm

I had an actual idea for a biome (Earth Standards)
"Cold Desert"
Occurs: between 45°-60°\next to an MT range\near the ocean(the MTs seperate the Ocean and biome)
Resouces: will get to that
Elevation: low enough to be overshadowed by the MTs
Climate: cold like the arctic\dry like a desert
Topagraphy: can be any\direction of wind from the ocean
Biodaversity: will get to that
Autotroph niches: will get to that
Heteratroph niches: will get to that
Other: because of unique location, all precipitatin gets dried out due to the MTs and the biome becomes very dry

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 6:26 pm

Gorbachof wrote:
I had an actual idea for a biome (Earth Standards)
"Cold Desert"
Occurs: between 45°-60°\next to an MT range\near the ocean(the MTs seperate the Ocean and biome)
Resouces: will get to that
Elevation: low enough to be overshadowed by the MTs
Climate: cold like the arctic\dry like a desert
Topagraphy: can be any\direction of wind from the ocean
Biodaversity: will get to that
Autotroph niches: will get to that
Heteratroph niches: will get to that
Other: because of unique location, all precipitatin gets dried out due to the MTs and the biome becomes very dry

Just wanted to know if the idea would work.
Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
Not to shoot things down here, but that's a) probably not possible with the physics we need to include here and b) not really a biome, as it covers the whole planet.
The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 7:23 pm

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Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.
Yes, I realize that, what I had in mind though was an area that should snowing but do to lack any preciptation, it was as dry as any sand covered desert
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The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.
To bad...
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 7:33 pm

Gorbachof wrote:
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Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.
Yes, I realize that, what I had in mind though was an area that should snowing but do to lack any preciptation, it was as dry as any sand covered desert
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The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.
To bad...

Cold Desert is a real Biome. It's snowy and icy, but very dry, like ~sciocont said. Change the name and it works.


Funny... I just did a project on the Desert biome in school. The hot one... So I'm gonna post it:

"Hot Desert"
Occurs: around the Tropic of Cancer, Tropic of Capricorn (In degrees latitude on alien planets)
Resources: Very little rain, dry ground, rain forests and mountains can be nearby (Mountains in between the two)
Elevation: Anywhere that is not below sea level or over 100m above it
Climate: Hot, range (Including extremes): 50 in the day to -20 degrees Celsius at night, humidity very low
Topography: Flat, sometimes hilly/dune-ey though
Biodiversity: High; most classes of terrestrial animals
Autotroph niches: Small to medium
Heteratroph niches: Small to medium
Other: When it rains, it pours. But it is so hot that it's not uncommon for rain to evaporate before even hitting the ground. Animals can survive very long times without water. Plants can store it. Most animals are nocturnal. Other animals have to find ways to resist the heat during the day.


Also... Niches are an organism's way of life and its role in its community... Are autotroph and heteratroph niches different?


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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 7:38 pm

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Funny... I just did a project on the Desert biome in school. The hot one... So I'm gonna post it:

"Hot Desert"
Occurs: Tropic of Cancer, Tropic of Capricorn (In degrees latitude)
Resources: Very little rain, dry ground, rain forests and mountains can be nearby (Mountains in between the two)
Elevation: 50-70ft above sea level... Ish
Climate: Hot, range (Including extremes): 50 in the day to -20 degrees Celsius at night, humidity very low
Topography: Flat, sometimes hilly/dune-ey though
Biodiversity: High; most classes of terrestrial animals
Autotroph niches: Small to medium
Heteratroph niches: Small to medium
Other: When it rains, it pours. But it is so hot that it's not uncommon for rain to evaporate before even hitting the ground. Animals can survive very long times without water. Plants can store it. Most animals are nocturnal. Other animals have to find ways to resist the heat during the day.


Also... Niches are an organism's way of life and its role in its community... Are autotroph and heteratroph niches different?
Autotrophs are organisms that make their own food (plants), heterotrophs are animals and fungi that must consume other living things for energy.

Occurs should be anywhere within the precipitation needed. You've got the basic concept of a rain shadow down, which is good, but elevation can be pretty much anywhere as well. No biome could possibly be limited to such a small range.

Other than that, and the possibility of huge erosional features, you've done pretty well with this biome.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 7:47 pm

Well I put those two places there because those are the places that have the water needed. Not EXACTLY at those spots, around them.

Okay, I'll fix the elevation stuff.

Thanks


For the heteratroph/autotroph thing, I meant the niches part, I know what those are

Autotrophs: Producers
Heteratrophs: Consumers and Decomposers
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 8:22 pm

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Well I put those two places there because those are the places that have the water needed. Not EXACTLY at those spots, around them.

Okay, I'll fix the elevation stuff.

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For the heteratroph/autotroph thing, I meant the niches part, I know what those are

Autotrophs: Producers
Heteratrophs: Consumers and Decomposers
Niche is just a size (see OP)

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 9:40 pm

Dudeman wrote:
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Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.
Yes, I realize that, what I had in mind though was an area that should snowing but do to lack any preciptation, it was as dry as any sand covered desert
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The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.
To bad...

Cold Desert is a real Biome. It's snowy and icy, but very dry, like ~sciocont said. Change the name and it works.
I know, i'm talking about an area with no water, no precipitation, AND NO SNOW. barren, like this, but cold (refere to my original biome post).
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 10:18 pm

Gorbachof wrote:
Dudeman wrote:
Gorbachof wrote:
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Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.
Yes, I realize that, what I had in mind though was an area that should snowing but do to lack any preciptation, it was as dry as any sand covered desert
Quote :
The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.
To bad...

Cold Desert is a real Biome. It's snowy and icy, but very dry, like ~sciocont said. Change the name and it works.
I know, i'm talking about an area with no water, no precipitation, AND NO SNOW. barren, like this, but cold (refere to my original biome post).

Call it... "Barren Desert" then.
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Thu May 26, 2011 10:58 pm

Dudeman wrote:
Gorbachof wrote:
Dudeman wrote:
Gorbachof wrote:
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Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.
Yes, I realize that, what I had in mind though was an area that should snowing but do to lack any preciptation, it was as dry as any sand covered desert
Quote :
The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.
To bad...

Cold Desert is a real Biome. It's snowy and icy, but very dry, like ~sciocont said. Change the name and it works.
I know, i'm talking about an area with no water, no precipitation, AND NO SNOW. barren, like this, but cold (refere to my original biome post).

Call it... "Barren Desert" then.
I admit, the name is... off, but "barren desert" dosen't imply the polar temperatures, although i'm happy to accept any name suggestions
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Fri May 27, 2011 2:58 pm

^^^^ THIS is what I'm talking about, people. ^^^^

Don't worry overmuch about your elevations. I'll probably mangle them horribly once I get my hands on them...

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Fri May 27, 2011 3:20 pm

Cold Barren Desert


There, a name. It implies both the polar temperature, plus the no precipitation.
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Fri May 27, 2011 5:13 pm

Gorbachof wrote:
Dudeman wrote:
Gorbachof wrote:
Dudeman wrote:
Gorbachof wrote:
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Any Desert is by definition, someplace with very little precipitation. Even though the ground is completely made of ice and snow, Antarctica is a huge desert.
Yes, I realize that, what I had in mind though was an area that should snowing but do to lack any preciptation, it was as dry as any sand covered desert
Quote :
The density of the mineral (which would most likely be magnetite, the most magnetically strong mineral on earth and one of the most common magnetic minerals) is much higher than the density of granite. The planet would have to be be tiny (I'd guess smaller than earth's core) for the magnetic affect to overcome gravitational forces, and then there's the problem of orienting the two faces of the magnets opposite each other, which nature will resist.
It sounds fun, but it's really just too fanciful.
To bad...

Cold Desert is a real Biome. It's snowy and icy, but very dry, like ~sciocont said. Change the name and it works.
I know, i'm talking about an area with no water, no precipitation, AND NO SNOW. barren, like this, but cold (refere to my original biome post).

Call it... "Barren Desert" then.
I admit, the name is... off, but "barren desert" dosen't imply the polar temperatures, although i'm happy to accept any name suggestions
Ah, ok that makes sense. This would be a barren biome I take it?

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Fri May 27, 2011 5:20 pm

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Cold Barren Desert


There, a name. It implies both the polar temperature, plus the no precipitation.
Ok... Fine,
"Cold Barren Desert"
Occurs: between 45°-60°\next to an MT range\near the ocean(the MTs seperate the Ocean and biome)
Resouces: will get to that
Elevation: low enough to be overshadowed by the MTs
Climate: cold like the arctic\dry like a desert
Topagraphy: can be any\direction of wind from the ocean
Biodaversity: will get to that
Autotroph niches: will get to that
Heteratroph niches: will get to that
Other: because of unique location, all precipitatin gets dried out due to the MTs and the biome becomes very dry
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Ah, ok that makes sense. This would be a barren biome I take it?
I'd assume, although i focused on the uniquness of the layout to really care what lives there, but it probably would be barran (whats cool is although it looks like a desert, instead of it being to hot, its to cold).
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Fri May 27, 2011 5:46 pm

Gorbachof wrote:
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Cold Barren Desert


There, a name. It implies both the polar temperature, plus the no precipitation.
Ok... Fine,
"Cold Barren Desert"
Occurs: between 45°-60°\next to an MT range\near the ocean(the MTs seperate the Ocean and biome)
Resouces: will get to that
Elevation: low enough to be overshadowed by the MTs
Climate: cold like the arctic\dry like a desert
Topagraphy: can be any\direction of wind from the ocean
Biodaversity: will get to that
Autotroph niches: will get to that
Heteratroph niches: will get to that
Other: because of unique location, all precipitatin gets dried out due to the MTs and the biome becomes very dry
Quote :
Ah, ok that makes sense. This would be a barren biome I take it?
I'd assume, although i focused on the uniquness of the layout to really care what lives there, but it probably would be barran (whats cool is although it looks like a desert, instead of it being to hot, its to cold).
Barren basically means nothing makes permanent residence there. It's like an ultra-desert.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Fri May 27, 2011 8:39 pm

~sciocont wrote:
Gorbachof wrote:
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Cold Barren Desert


There, a name. It implies both the polar temperature, plus the no precipitation.
Ok... Fine,
"Cold Barren Desert"
Occurs: between 45°-60°\next to an MT range\near the ocean(the MTs seperate the Ocean and biome)
Resouces: will get to that
Elevation: low enough to be overshadowed by the MTs
Climate: cold like the arctic\dry like a desert
Topagraphy: can be any\direction of wind from the ocean
Biodaversity: will get to that
Autotroph niches: will get to that
Heteratroph niches: will get to that
Other: because of unique location, all precipitatin gets dried out due to the MTs and the biome becomes very dry
Quote :
Ah, ok that makes sense. This would be a barren biome I take it?
I'd assume, although i focused on the uniquness of the layout to really care what lives there, but it probably would be barran (whats cool is although it looks like a desert, instead of it being to hot, its to cold).
Barren basically means nothing makes permanent residence there. It's like an ultra-desert.
I agree, it could be (my biome) desert and it could be an "ultra desert," it just depends on what evolves (something, like I said, I didn't think/care about).
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Sun May 29, 2011 9:57 am

Basically, without water, nothing can live there, making it a barren biome.

Fallout Zone
Occurs: anywhere following a major nuclear event
Resouces: none
Elevation: any
Climate: any
Topagraphy: any
Biodaversity: 0
Autotroph niches: 0
Heteratroph niches: 0
Other: nothing can live here but the heartiest of tiny creatures. the radiation will poison anything else. this land will recover in time, but until then it is a graveyard.

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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Sun May 29, 2011 10:35 am

it could count as a "Red Zone"?, for the ones who dont know, Red Zone is a term used in the game Command & Conquer (the Tiberium saga) who defines a Zone with large deposits of Tiberium, making it a place where life cannot be supported, except for creatures born by mutations.

that could count as a biome too?
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PostSubject: Re: Biome List   Sun May 29, 2011 11:03 am

More or less what scio defined, only we won't be stealing anyone else's copyright names please.
We're going to need seperate classification for disturbances. Bother.

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