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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:26 am

Animals will be the same size as terrestrial animals (granted the conditions are similar). That is, on a planet with roughtly the same gravity than on earth, you will have the same animal sizes.

However, planet size will be much smaller. The current estimate is roughtly the size of Manhattan for each planet. We will cheat a bit with the sizes and magnitudes there, we we can have planet the mass of earth but with a much smaller radius (as the surface is much smaller) but with the same gravity.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:43 am

Well i hope we could be able to change the creatures size anyway of course in what the planet permits.
There could be a little metric line below the creature in the editor just so you know in what kind of world you are.
Now i have a proposal on how the interstellar flight could look like ingame. Ladies and gentlemen i give you the Annihilation Engine-environmentally friendly! It uses the massive energy of annihilating matter and anti-matter to shrink space-time in front of your ship and expand it behind it, this results in distorting the light your crew sees, such a beautiful view, black holes create similar effect with their gravity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRr-2W3JLAQ Space Engine has it so it should be possible http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MaD6F5Sx_uw#t=26s 
So charge your engine, behold the magnificent view and in an instant you are THERE

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:02 am

Ok everyone, the Thrive Podcast has been approved on iTunes! You can listen and subscribe to it here. Great job to everyone involved.

Now, time to plan the next one

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:38 pm

so then about traps, I don't mean those nets i mean Like borrowing yourself in the ground and snatching up the first thing that comes near you. And that of course brings me to my second question 
Can i live underground in a hive? like very large ants or something sending a few scouts every once in awhile,If you do have hives you may need to have it in rts mode and stay their the player playing the hive queen or something like that.

TL:dr:can you be in a hive and can you be an ambush predator like an antlion.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:59 pm

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so then about traps, I don't mean those nets i mean Like borrowing yourself in the ground and snatching up the first thing that comes near you. And that of course brings me to my second question 
Can i live underground in a hive? like very large ants or something sending a few scouts every once in awhile,If you do have hives you may need to have it in rts mode and stay their the player playing the hive queen or something like that.

TL:dr:can you be in a hive and can you be an ambush predator like an antlion.
I was wondering that Too mostly because iheard that you can be an animal while there is a  Sentinent species on the planet iwas wondering if the hunters ould lay down gtraps for you sorry srry for bad spelling iam On mobile
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:50 am

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Now i have a proposal on how the interstellar flight could look like ingame. Ladies and gentlemen i give you the Annihilation Engine-environmentally friendly! It uses the massive energy of annihilating matter and anti-matter to shrink space-time in front of your ship and expand it behind it,
 Aka Warp Drive, and yes, it will be in the game.

Also I just wanted to say, for lack of a better thread to post this on, I am finished exams and will be able to participate far more. There are many threads I wish to work on, and others to revive. I also hope to finalize more concept on the Strategy Mode, and release more content on the Research Web.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:02 am

In my first act as Outreach Team Lead, I have created a Steam group for Thrive! If you are on Steam please show your support by joining the group and inviting your friends.

Here's the link.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:24 am

Done!
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:43 am

Nice work Jacob, I am sure plenty of guests will appreciate being able to access our status, description, and updates via Steam. Its good to see you taking your own initiative towards this!

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:18 am

What about creating a page for Thrive in the steam greenlight -> concepts section?
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=765&section=concepts
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:54 am

Not yet I don't think. Not until we actually have something to show. Plus it's 100% free, which doesn't really fit into Steam's business model.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:08 am

WJacobC wrote:
Not yet I don't think. Not until we actually have something to show.
OK, but we'll hopefully have something to show soon(equals "before the end of 2013").
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Plus it's 100% free, which doesn't really fit into Steam's business model.
But they do have a section for free-to-play games. link.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:17 am

Yes, they have "free to play" games, but all of those gain money some way or another. All of them have ingame purchasable content, and thats where the creators make money.

In order for steam to gain money, they get a share on everything sold through steam. Thats how steam makes money, and how they aford the servers where they host all the games.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:52 am

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Yes, they have "free to play" games, but all of those gain money some way or another. All of them have ingame purchasable content, and thats where the creators make money.

In order for steam to gain money, they get a share on everything sold through steam. Thats how steam makes money, and how they aford the servers where they host all the games.
OK, sorry, didn't think about that.:oops:
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:11 pm

I know it's maybe a bit too early to talk about this topic, but: what about multiplayer?
I also know that someone suggested that there are some servers and each one is a galaxy in which players can evolve and do everything they can do offline.
But my idea was to have some kind of arena where players can fight each other with their own creatures. The players would be able to host a game and invite friends or just join a random game. 
But for random games we would need at least one server, the first could be possible via hamachi like in minecraft.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:34 pm

You were right in thinking that it was too early. First we really need a playable microbe stage, perhaps even the full game before we can think about multiplayer.

Anyway, this has been discussed before and the consensus was that it would be asynchronous, like spore, where other people's creatures appeared in your game, etc. Your arena idea is cool, but would require many many extra months to complete, especially the server side programming.

That sounds like a fun idea though.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:07 pm

The default game (where you evolve) is just impossible to make in multiplayer, as a few minutes in creature mode represent the same amount of time you need to get a species from sentinent to ascension (there are different timescales)

The arena thing could be good, though. However, i would not have much hope looking into that. It is far from the main idea of the game, and the programming to allow it would mean redoing most of the game, or just writing a new engine just for multiplayer.

Local multiplayer (aka splitscreen), on the other hand would be extremelly easy to implement, though. I could add that to the current release in about half an hour just by writing a few more scripts. It will get a bit harder as the game gets more complex, but having two cameras and two different controlled creatures is quite easy.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:57 am

Although multiplayer would unquestionably be impossible to implement in the full game, I think it would actually be quite good to add as an extra minigame sort of thing. The microbe stage especially would be fun to play in multiplayer - two or more players evolving their cells to out-compete each other and AI cells, which would of course be evolving too. This could happen either online or in split-screen. The only problem I could foresee with this is the cell editor. Maybe when a player enters the cell editor in multiplayer, the time they can spend editing in one session could be limited to about a minute, while the rest of the players freeze or have the option to edit their cell as well.

Of course, I'm just wildly speculating here. Until we have a microbe stage that's playable in single player we shouldn't consider multiplayer too much. One stage of multiplayer will probably be about as far as we could go with it anyway, and if that's the case the microbe stage would be the best candidate.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:42 am

What about like, a LAN for just the creature stage or something?

Like, the second player just takes on another member of your species, or a symbiotic species...

Cuz' I find exploring your planet with a buddy a bit more entertaining than swimming and squirming around trying to eat them. .3.

Though other than that, space stage would probably be fairly interesting itself, and probably wouldn't have editor conflictions, since they could just go back to their home planet to make their tech stuff.

Just thinking out loud here. .3.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:48 pm

Lan is just as hard as online. The only "easy" thing is splitscreen.

However, none of this is something we are focusing right now. Maybe as it is "completed" we can do this, but for now we should focus on the more inmediate stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:18 pm

Daniferrito wrote:
Lan is just as hard as online. The only "easy" thing is splitscreen.

However, none of this is something we are focusing right now. Maybe as it is "completed" we can do this, but for now we should focus on the more inmediate stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:25 pm

A'ight. I'll follow you folks on that one.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:07 am

so we can play as plants and plant accessories right and dig in the ground and live like moles and make hives full of [insert honey like thing here] with queens and 1,000s of workers all part of the [insert antlike creature here] society,and big pointless biomachines that eat planets and entire solar systems?
So can I!!! can I!!!
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PostSubject: limitations   Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:50 pm

hey guys just wondering what limitation will there be in the microbe stage because ive read in a few other topics like the evolution be be somewhat controlled unlike spore where you just randomly find parts out of the blue.
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PostSubject: Re: Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread   Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:17 pm

As I had just said on another thread, minor questions like this should go on this thread. What do you mean by limitations? Anything that we isn't coded you can't do. A better question would be what can you do, and that is answered in multiple places.

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