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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:31 pm

Keep 'em coming guys. I'll just delete any repeats, but do check the doc in the first post so that you don't repost something from page 2 of this thread.

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:02 pm

Thanks Nikola! That does help clear things up.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:02 pm

About airsacs, someone may have mentioned this already, they are part of the bird's respiratory system and allow them to oxygenate their blood effectively during strenuous exercise and at very high altitudes where the air is less dense. They're essential for high altitude/sustained flight.

If you guys end of adding these it'd be cool to see some way for air sacs to interface with the respiratory system.

There's also another organ I'd like to suggest.

Organ Name: Spiracles
System: Respiratory
Description: Small pores in the skin/exoskeleton of certain organisms.
Use: Allows oxygen to be moved directly into the tissues from the environment. In some organisms the contraction of muscles also creates a pumping action in the spiracles which allows for effective oxygenation of tissues during rapid movement, even with an open circulatory system.
Details: Common in insects, these are critical to flight and rapid movement.
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PostSubject: EVEN MORE ORGAINS :D   Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:23 am

Well seems I am a Organ guy because I love making new ones

ORGAN NAME:Direct Stomach
SYSTEM:Digestion and Hunting
DESCRIPTION:A stomach that is put instead of a mouth because it has teeth and to hunt it jumps out and grabs its pray with it's teeth (No Less Than 500 (This number can be Edited and the size can also be edited with a limit of 0.2cm))
Use:Used for the replacement of the mouth to free up space for some other organs (This is like a cheap and unprotected version of a 2 in 1 organ for the player who wants to have more organs than a creature who doesn't want it's stomach to hunt it's own food!)
Details:Commonly Seen in Sea Stars and the Hydra (A type of animal that resembles a sponge with hundreds of arms)(This might not be true I forgot...I think it is :I)

ORGAN NAME:Arrow Bone
SYSTEM:Defensive/Offensive
DESCRIPTION:It's a bone named after it's arrow shape that is connected to the creature via thin tube that can spring out of the pore that the bone is located in and hook into the prey/attacking creature (This organ can easely be regenerated)
Use:For slowing down animals and damaging other organs (Limit of 2m/s on spring out)
Details:Commonly seen in animals who want to slowly damage animals from a distance (Can be combined with a toxic gland to deliver toxins to prey animals)
Interesting:Can be made out of 3 Materials:Carbon Crystals,Bone & Tissue

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PostSubject: Toxins.   Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:04 pm

Organs to be designing? Why the Belgium not!

Spasm-Toxin Gland.
System: Peripheral
Description: A toxin for causing organisms to Spasm.
Use: When your creature injects an organism, either by using a claw, a biting mechanism, or any other means, the toxin would go through the Nervous System, and would go to the brain, causing the organisms brain to send multitudes of senses to their muscles system, telling them to contract and expand rapidly, causing them to be Defenseless, allowing an easy kill.

Vomit-Toxin Gland.
System: Peripheral
Description: A toxin for causing the organism to vomit uncontrollably.
Use: When your creature injects another creature with this toxin, it goes through to its brain, causing it to think that it has eaten some venomous food, and it will start to vomit uncontrollably, untill all of its stomach contents are depleted, once that occurs, the toxin de-activates.

Blood-Toxin Gland.
SystemL Peripheral
Description: Causes unseen side effects to the blood of creatures.
Use: when injected into a creature, it flows through their blood and eventually to their heart, causing side effects such as Deprived Blood-Oxygen, Decreased White Blood Cells, and Vein Puncturing.

...I think ive devised some pretty gruesome Toxins here... I love it.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:26 pm

I'm not trying to burst your bubble, or sound harsh, but what I think was decided was a generic Gland organ you can place, modify the produced agents, and choose which orifice it is excreted from (claws, teeth, skin, etc.). These would make very cool, and gruesome, effects like you said, good imagination.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:39 pm

Immortal_Dragon wrote:
I'm not trying to burst your bubble, or sound harsh, but what I think was decided was a generic Gland organ you can place, modify the produced agents, and choose which orifice it is excreted from (claws, teeth, skin, etc.). These would make very cool, and gruesome, effects like you said, good imagination.
So we can make the ones I thought of and More?! Sweet. Now I can BURN THE SKIN OFF MY ENEMIES... Sorry, I just went insane for a moment.
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PostSubject: Topic: Gas and its use   Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:18 pm

I dont remember if this was already mentioned, but since the gland can in theory make any sustance we want/need, then it can also make some kind of gas (helium maybe) to:
a) use it with the dragons`idea
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b) fill an aerial sack with it for easier flotability

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:14 am

Organ name: Egg development
System: Reproductive
Description: Assuming that your animal doesn't lay eggs, where you place it would be where it develop.
Use: It would swell where it is if fertilized, and it would be easier to protect them considering that they are literally inside you (Don't :evil: ), instead of being in cute little capsules for a animal to eat.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:39 am

Actually Portal, the Internal Fertilization organ takes care of eggs. Since it is a sac that swells up with eggs/young when fertilized. Unless you are talking about a creature being ovoviviparous, I think that is more of an editing thing rather than an organ thing.

And ccarriel, I think the dragons idea has been settled for something more like the bombardier beetle, where the two substances will have to mix outside of the body/mouth, otherwise the creature will burn itself. I think glands are more for secreting chemicals/agents, but with the node and tube system, you can connect things like bladders and the generic air sac to the digestive system and use it to generate the gas (this will most likely be methane or hydrogen).
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:48 pm

The Limbic System
System: Nervous
Description: A part of the brain that controls emotions, olfactory, and other things.
Use: This should introduce the concept of emotions and feelings. You can make emotions bound with behaviors. You can also make alien emotions. For instance, a herd grazing animal will active a bunch of defensive behaviors when it is scared.
Details: Should be able to drag it around and change its shape.

I will come up with more brain concepts tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:13 pm

Um, the Brain is actually going to be just one part that can have the different sections edited, I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:55 am

Immortal_Dragon wrote:
Um, the Brain is actually going to be just one part that can have the different sections edited, I think.
Yes, I know, but I think that the concept of emotions should be included, so I decided to introduce the limbic system to regulate them. It does not have to be a separate part, but a part of the normal brain.


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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:16 am

Emotions would be too complex for the game, plus it would interfere with the player's interaction.

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:58 am

NickTheNick wrote:
Emotions would be too complex for the game, plus it would interfere with the player's interaction.
Oh yes, that is true, but couldn't emotions in creatures apart from the one the player is controlling be included?
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:43 pm

No, because animal consciousness and emotion is something we have yet to gain a grasp of in modern science, and in terms of video game design there has yet to be an AI that can simulate emotions.

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:09 pm

NickTheNick wrote:
No, because animal consciousness and emotion is something we have yet to gain a grasp of in modern science, and in terms of video game design there has yet to be an AI that can simulate emotions.
I'm not an advocate of implementing emotions, but that is a poor argument. You can simulate anything with a resemblance of a pattern (and that's all we do for any of the processes that will be in the game: simulate a simplified pattern)
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:29 pm

Yes, true, just as sims simulated emotions as well, but I think King Plorpadeus Ex meant actually simulating a strong AI with emotions. Regardless, it's unnecessary over-complication of something which can easily and accurately be covered already with brains and the behaviour editor.

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:26 am

NickTheNick wrote:
Yes, true, just as sims simulated emotions as well, but I think King Plorpadeus Ex meant actually simulating a strong AI with emotions. Regardless, it's unnecessary over-complication of something which can easily and accurately be covered already with brains and the behaviour editor.
Yes, I now realize that my idea was foolish. I should have known that you had already discussed this. I am sorry for my stupid concept.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:43 am

Don't worry, it wasn't stupid, just make sure to research a subject before posting about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:44 am

NickTheNick wrote:
Don't worry, it wasn't stupid, just make sure to research a subject before posting about it.
Im thinking to create some new organ concepts soon, i hope my curent ones will help.
Sorry for massive inactivity lately, i want to contribute.

EDIT: Hmmm... Bird lungs?
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:09 am

Well, since I don't see anything in Digestive systems for the approved list;

Standard Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: A simple, muscular sack full of digestive fluids.
Use: A Simple stomach for digestion of sustenance.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

2-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: A pair of simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Double the stomach, double the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

3-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: Three simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Triple the stomach, triple the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

4-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: Four simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Double 2-chambers, four times the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:05 am

Aiosian_Doctor_Xenox wrote:
Well, since I don't see anything in Digestive systems for the approved list;

Standard Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: A simple, muscular sack full of digestive fluids.
Use: A Simple stomach for digestion of sustenance.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

2-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: A pair of simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Double the stomach, double the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

3-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: Three simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Triple the stomach, triple the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

4-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: Four simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Double 2-chambers, four times the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.
Also, what about... The thing for throwing away useless stuff in digested and ruminants?
And have we discussed kidneys yet? I don't think so.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:32 am

WilliamstheJohn wrote:
Aiosian_Doctor_Xenox wrote:
Well, since I don't see anything in Digestive systems for the approved list;

Standard Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: A simple, muscular sack full of digestive fluids.
Use: A Simple stomach for digestion of sustenance.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

2-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: A pair of simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Double the stomach, double the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

3-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: Three simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Triple the stomach, triple the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.

4-Chambered Stomach
System: Digestive
Description: Four simple, connected, muscular sacks full of digestive fluids.
Use: Double 2-chambers, four times the power.
Details: Can be tuned to be better for digestion of meat, plant matter, minerals, or other sustenance.
Also, what about... The thing for throwing away useless stuff in digested and ruminants?
And have we discussed kidneys yet? I don't think so.
I might be able to come up with something.

Also, I only went to four, because that's the most I've heard of. .3.
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PostSubject: Re: Organ Design   Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:29 pm

Actually, I think that the end of the digestive system will just be linked to an orifice that is designated or something like that.
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