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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 11:01 am

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[I was wondering, could this godlike species possibly, change the species religion?



.....what? why.....no that doesn't make sense i'm afraid.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 11:07 am

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This sounds plausible to me. If the mortal they worship saves them, where would he take them? To another nearby planet?......this could inadverntley cause alien contact.


They could take them to another habitable planet in the solar system if any or the closest free planet.

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But yeah, if its a mortal alien race, but not some crud like jesus, or atleast any alien version of him, ecause number 1:HE IS FREAKING DEAD!. So his life is over theres nothinwe can do about it, and I honestly believe even if we could, that'd just be wierd a hell, so.....yeah no jesus stuff but like what You said comparing us to the foreRunners for example.

I never meant anything like that. I just meant that an advanced race that are worshipped, nothing special just a technologically advanced species that can save the other species from demise.
How so do You mean demise?
I was wondering, could this godlike species possibly, change the species religion?

A crisis that could cause the species to be wiped out. And how do you mean change their religion? as in change it to the religion that the 'god-like' species follows?
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 11:09 am

sumwun18 wrote:
MeowMan1 wrote:
[I was wondering, could this godlike species possibly, change the species religion?



.....what? why.....no that doesn't make sense i'm afraid.
I meant like since this god like species might have a different religion than their worshipers, that they might convince the species to their own religion. Because after all, would the worshipping species want to be like their gods and repects their gods?
So yes.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 11:57 am

MeowMan1 wrote:
sumwun18 wrote:
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[I was wondering, could this godlike species possibly, change the species religion?



.....what? why.....no that doesn't make sense i'm afraid.
I meant like since this god like species might have a different religion than their worshipers, that they might convince the species to their own religion. Because after all, would the worshipping species want to be like their gods and repects their gods?
So yes.
Btw how do I make a topic?
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 12:02 pm

You cant, you need 20 posts
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 1:35 pm

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You cant, you need 20 posts
OH. ahhhh. well whatever I SHALL MAKE 20 POSTS! FOR THRIVE!
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sun May 06, 2012 2:08 pm

WHAT IS THIS THREAD.
Be on topic people, that last page was full of nonsense or strange arguing or something. And don't double post.
And for the love of Belgium, if you have an Idea, go to the miscellaneous thread first.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Mon May 07, 2012 11:31 am

~sciocont wrote:
Since belief systems would be largely arbitrary, the end of a planet would be spectacular through entirely natural phenomena-it could collide with a star, other planet, it's own moon, a comet, or an asteroid. It could also be scorched by a solar flare, torn apart by tidal forces, etc. - I believe we do have a disasters thread, though I can't seem to find it.

Re rail: disasters thread does not cover the apocalypse, scio. Just major extinctions.
Also, you'd have to play your game for a belgiumming long time. Someone probably will, though...

And this, kiddies, is why we do not engage in religious discussions. There is no way to please everyone, so aside from the inclusion of religion in the civ stage as an aspect of civilization, we will be sticking to the scientific.

Gameplay wise, religion wouldn't cover the whole friking planet anyway, so discussion on 'a planet's religion' is moot.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Thu May 10, 2012 1:15 am

So, for purposes of "The Evolution Game Thrive" a planet is dead when there is no biomes other than barren/uninhabitable area?
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Thu May 10, 2012 8:02 pm

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So, for purposes of "The Evolution Game Thrive" a planet is dead when there is no biomes other than barren/uninhabitable area?

Essentially the theory, not exactly by programming. They'll be a seperate set of biomes than those for areas affected by disasters - or, actually, there will be no biomes, we'll just have terrain and lock the planet. The "barren" biomes, as programmed, are able to progress into habitable ones (sucession stage 1) and still allow creatures to move across them. Uninhabitable planets we should just simply lock, as they don't fulfil requirements to even generate biomes.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Thu May 10, 2012 8:39 pm

Oh God, this thread.

Think about gameplay. Think abouot how scenarios need to mix and match and the overlap between concepts. This thread seems largely based on discussion of a cool scenario idea. Please do not think in terms of cool or even interesting. Think in terms of significance to the long term development of life. Inherently, the idea of planetary destruction is irrelevant to the project. What would this amount to for the player? Perhaps a pretty cutscene? Please stay on target.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Thu May 10, 2012 10:08 pm

There are certain forms of destruction we can deal with and even allow the player to live through, if they're smart enough.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 11, 2012 3:22 pm

The ones in the disasters thread, for example. (Run away from Vesuvius! Do it now! As soon as the tremors start!)

To my knowlege, though, the end of a whole planet was not one of them. The exception would be to those who fled the stellar system significantly before a star went nova or something, but there would be nothing around to witness that and live, so we don't even have to program that. A message to the player playing some other colony would read something like "Sirius has gone nova, Sirius Prime Colony is destroyed." That's really all we'd have to do about it.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 11, 2012 5:45 pm

Would you happen to know where the disasters thread is?

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 11, 2012 7:39 pm

~sciocont wrote:
Would you happen to know where the disasters thread is?
Will look.

Edit: Here.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 11, 2012 8:39 pm

~sciocont wrote:
WHAT IS THIS THREAD.
Be on topic people, that last page was full of nonsense or strange arguing or something. And don't double post.
And for the love of Belgium, if you have an Idea, go to the miscellaneous thread first.
Ok seriously why can't I double post whatever the belgium that is....jeez dude.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 11, 2012 8:54 pm

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
~sciocont wrote:
Would you happen to know where the disasters thread is?
Will look.

Edit: Here.
Why did that not come up on search? Thank you very much.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Tue May 15, 2012 7:29 pm

very sorry Sciocont, I shall be much more on topic.
Maybe a planet copuld have an O-zone layer major depletion and the sun would therefore burn teh planet's surface, and kill all life, unless some microbes somehow survived. Does that sound like a good idea? If anyone thinks not, please, do respond. ThankYou.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Tue May 15, 2012 10:40 pm

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very sorry Sciocont, I shall be much more on topic.
Maybe a planet copuld have an O-zone layer major depletion and the sun would therefore burn teh planet's surface, and kill all life, unless some microbes somehow survived. Does that sound like a good idea? If anyone thinks not, please, do respond. ThankYou.

And here's a good idea. Keep it up.

Ozone depletion means more UV rays from the sun, so more planetary heating. Not everything would necessarily die though. Biomes would be disrupted, sea levels would rise if there was any polar ice pack to be melted. Creatures would have a higher chance of dying from skin cancer, but underground things might survive. However, the habitat destruction might be enough to trigger a major extinction.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Thu May 17, 2012 4:12 pm

And here's a good idea. Keep it up.

Ozone depletion means more UV rays from the sun, so more planetary heating. Not everything would necessarily die though. Biomes would be disrupted, sea levels would rise if there was any polar ice pack to be melted. Creatures would have a higher chance of dying from skin cancer, but underground things might survive. However, the habitat destruction might be enough to trigger a major extinction.[/quote]
ThankYou for Thy knowledge and Compliment. I shall use this knowledge for future commenting on this topic.
And also, Now that I come to think of it, that makes alot more sense.
Like a deadly and fast global warming?
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 18, 2012 10:46 am

Sort of. It would definitely speed up global warming, but it would also kill trees quicker because of higher exposure to levels of radiation that cells aren't meant to take. Also, it could lead to a partial die-off of surface and ocean bacteria, which are less affected by global warming: UV rays are used to sterilize things precisely because they kill cells of all descriptions.

Basically, it's kind of like global warming with a higher incidence of skin cancer and a greater death toll in species across the board. And we've managed to avoid the Ozone disaster occurring in our lifetime by eliminating Chlorofluorocarbons - acually, people a few decades back did that, but history lessons go elsewhere.

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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Fri May 18, 2012 8:04 pm

YAY! I was kinda right for once! lol. Back to the topic....What about The sun being sucked up by a blackhole, but only the sun not the planets, and the planet eventually freezes and everything DIES. DEAD. Maybe some bacteria, but besides that How would it not be a lifeless planet? It'd be so dead it makes Me feel evil...And I like that.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sat May 19, 2012 4:20 pm

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YAY! I was kinda right for once! lol. Back to the topic....What about The sun being sucked up by a blackhole, but only the sun not the planets, and the planet eventually freezes and everything DIES. DEAD. Maybe some bacteria, but besides that How would it not be a lifeless planet? It'd be so dead it makes Me feel evil...And I like that.

If a black hole gets close enough to suck up the sun, it is an almost certainty the accompanying planets will go with it. However, the star's death could have a similar effect, freezing the planet and no longer providing light, but the planet would remain in orbit. If the star turns into a black hole, then you have a planet orbiting a black hole instead of a sun, but I'm not sure whether life would be able to form on a planet with star that big to start with.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sat May 19, 2012 5:08 pm

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YAY! I was kinda right for once! lol. Back to the topic....What about The sun being sucked up by a blackhole, but only the sun not the planets, and the planet eventually freezes and everything DIES. DEAD. Maybe some bacteria, but besides that How would it not be a lifeless planet? It'd be so dead it makes Me feel evil...And I like that.

If a black hole gets close enough to suck up the sun, it is an almost certainty the accompanying planets will go with it. However, the star's death could have a similar effect, freezing the planet and no longer providing light, but the planet would remain in orbit. If the star turns into a black hole, then you have a planet orbiting a black hole instead of a sun, but I'm not sure whether life would be able to form on a planet with star that big to start with.

Black holes aren't really vacuum cleaners. If a small (earth sized?) black hole approaches the sun, then it shouldn't really mess up the planet that badly. All it could do is shift the orbit of the planet, which doesn't really matter much if the sun's a black hole.

In terms of life surviving, unless the life on it has interstellar capabilities, all you'll really have are thermosynthetics surviving of geothermal heat. Some highly adaptable life might be able to just grip onto survival (A Pail of Air, anyone?), which is another way life may go on. If a civilisation is at the nanotech level, then astronomers might be able to fortell the black hole and build sealed, nuclear powered arcologies to help people survive.

Also, MeowMan, your ideas are awesome. I wish I was as create as you.
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PostSubject: Re: End of Planets?   Sat May 19, 2012 7:15 pm

Also, MeowMan, your ideas are awesome. I wish I was as create as you.[/quote]
Oh, Why thank You! You'e pretty cool Yourself dude!
I like the idea of grasping onto air, very creative.
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