Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

NickTheNick wrote:

You can also automate any part of your nation editor, such as the military panel, if you wish for your nation to conquer without your orders. However, if you wish to keep control over the military instead of letting an advisor automate it, you can create and give campaigns to your generals, a process involving setting waypoints and commands, giving them resources, and then they try to follow it through as best they can. Its like a more expanded version of telling units to attack-move to a target location on the map in RTS games.

EDIT: Amazing job Oliver! That playlist is a very handy compilation of all our videos so far.

That certainly sounds quite good! I just hope you illustrious gentlemen/ladies can program such a thing.

The campaign creation, if that is the thing you are suggesting would be a challenge, is actually quite easy if you just break it into parts. You just submit a series of orders to your general, give them a resource cap they can use, and then an AI takes over based off of your rules. For example:

• Attack-Move to X Location
  
• If take Location X, Attack-Move to Y Location
  
• If take Location Y, hold Location
  
• Z Supplies available
  

It still needs a lot of refining though.

I'm having a little bit of trouble with the files being used for the prototypes. For some reason, I can't make use of them, as windows doesn't seem to know what program was used to make them. I have a feeling it would be hard for you guys to shift the file type you're using, so what program are you using for the RAR files?

My prototypes are saved in ZIP format, so windows should open them, and for RAR files, I'm opening them with Linux, so I don't have problems with that either.

You can search google for any free RAR programs.

If you mean this one (https://thrivegame.canadaboard.net/t1069-thrive-releases#20973), those are not prototypes, are actual alpha releases. I will post newer releases as zip for native compatibility with windows.

To unzip any rar file, you should be able to use any program from this list that says it has rar compatibility.

Suggestion for Doggit:

Make more editor themes. I would love that really, and would be useful beacuse of coming soon microbe stage.

WilliamstheJohn wrote:

Suggestion for Doggit:

Make more editor themes. I would love that really, and would be useful beacuse of coming soon microbe stage.

I am a bit 'busy with work, but I'll start working on a new song for the editor for cells.

I have to ask you all:
What control will be for zoom in/out? I suggest scroll.

Yes. I think this is pretty self-evident and does not need to be discussed.

I also want to ask what is with censor. Will there be censor for anything explicit?

Previous discusions on that were separated into two groups. Some wanted some explicit to be added, some other didnt even want to put them in the game. However, everyone agreed that IF we put some delicate things in the game, there should be an option to hide them or turn them off.

On the topic of coitus, none of the people actually capable of programing procedurally generated animations was willing to do them. It was a while ago, so things might have changed.

It might actually be kind of funny and save some animation work at the same time if, during... ahem.. "reproductive actions", the view on the creatures will be heavily pixellated, like the Sims game does it.

Or we could jut fade to black and forget about animating anything at all.

Daniferrito wrote:

Or we could jut fade to black and forget about animating anything at all.

"These humans are illogically preoccupied with the subject of procreation."

Yeah, guys... nobody wants to watch your space monkeys' intimate moments. Nobody wants to model or animate it. We actually did this discussion twice already.

Honestly, spore had these and then got rid of it, then they made it into a children's game, we can't allow that to happen to thrive. I vote, show it a little.

Actually, Spore had the cutesy dancing in hearts animation.

(Additionally, it was a children's game because it was essentially a glorified electronic alien-themed potato head doll in the editors, never had any strategy complexity, and was animated like a pixar movie, but I digress.)

To me, this is one of the least important aspects of gameplay that we're currently discussing. Mature adults know that sex happens, and given that we'd have potentially millions of organism models, animating it seems like a rather large waste of time.

I agree, i don't see how sex would make the game richer. BTW i want to ask what is going on with the development of the microbe stage as i can't find any recent info about it? Are the prototypes useful do they really help with the game engine?

I don't speak programmer, so I dunno all the answers, but I can find you the thread where they discuss the latest stuff. They're running the maths and adding to it bit by bit, it seems. As for information, they just let something out last week: I recommend having a poke at it.

Calli you are in fact wrong, spore originally had procedurally generated sex.
As well as procedurally generated animations in general (which it still has), (which we will have to do anyway because everthing will evolve), so procedurally doing the sex will be easy once we have animations working.

(I am a programer)


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Trillium:

The prototypes are actually doing very well, the goal is to implement as much as possible outside the engine in order to do it well with the engine.

My prototype for example is handling what we want the microbe stage environment (endocytosis and etc.) to feel and look like and to have the ability to switch cells at will (when you die), and to see what we can get with evolution.
Rodgame's one was inpelemnting the compound systom.
The microbe editor prototype is so we know how we will do it in engine.

Actually, cali, there has not been any discusion about programing there at all. The most important one we have been discussing on was this one.

Just to give a brief report, Nimbal is currently hard at work at revising the base engine, implementing multithreading, implementing lua scripts and cleaning up some of the other code.

The lastest problem was that there is a conflict between gcc 4.8 (the compiler) and luabind (the library to use c++ and lua in the same project), so the only option was to degrade to gcc 4.7. That means compiling ogre ourselves (the only precompiled releases are with gcc 4.8).

I hope you understood that, but i would understaund if you didnt. Basically, there is a problem and we (actually only Nimbal) are trying to solve it.

Once all of that is solved and finished, we can all get hard to work implementing all the features that have been discused, and geting visible work done out.

New theme for dystopian or oppressive societies in the civilisation stage:



On a related note, is there an official thread for posting themes which we should revive (the thread that is, not the themes)?

Sounds amazing Oliveriver
Great atmosphere

I stand corrected. The visible result was, however, the mating dance of cut-scene-ness.

Good job, Oliveriver!

Great job Oliver, will fit perfectly!
When is forum revamp officialy starting, first changes?

Hi, I know that this question is a bit far off of the game's current status, but how are your thoughts about a multiplayer modus (that places players near enough to each other, otherwise there would be a lack of sense in an incredibly vast galaxy^^)?

On another note, have you been thinking about a donation opportunity once all stages are implemented? I guess I would run into problems with my conciousness to take the decade's most imba-ly good creative game for free.

Btw, how much use could you take out of an intermediate Java programmer? (Intermediate because I know my language stuff, but have very little experience in complex algorithms.)