Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

As I said, I used the chords from Gnossienne No.1 by Erik Satie, but apart from that it's all my own composition.

So it's decided that new organelles will be unlocked by consuming cells? I always imagined it would be something like a techtree tough oh well.

Oliveriver wrote:

NickTheNick wrote:

What would we attract them with? Plain concept doesn't cut it. Any ideas like this are far better off once we are farther in our development. I think a safe threshold of that would be once we have a sufficiently playable Microbe Stage.

Music maybe? (I'm just kidding - I agree that we certainly need a more complete microbe stage in order to move forward with this sort of thing).

Speaking of music, here's a new theme I've just composed for the defeat or severe crippling of an army in the industrial stage:



It's inspired by the chord sequence of Erik Satie's Gnossienne No.1 and I'm quite proud of it, but I'm not too sure whether it would be suitable for the game, mostly because of its length.

Very good work. However, might I suggest you also make, when you can, a more orchestral version of a defeat theme? I don't want to put a damper on this beautiful piece, but to me it seems more like the defeat of a single person than that of a whole army. The best example I could get of the kind of theme I am imagining was this.

EDIT: After listening to my example again, I realized it might give too much of a middle-age European theme, but it's the best I could find and its not a bad theme to give off.

Anyways, i hav pretty Misc. quenstion:

On Revolutionary Games site, i sen that Scio BECOME overall team lead after some time, which means he was not always team lead.
So i have quenstion:
Was there (except Sven) overall team lead before Scio?

Before Scio, there was no Thrive, only Evolutions!. And I've heard you will be eaten by EvoBeast if you talk about Evolutions!...

NickTheNick wrote:

Oliveriver wrote:

Some stuff I wrote before.

Very good work. However, might I suggest you also make, when you can, a more orchestral version of a defeat theme? I don't want to put a damper on this beautiful piece, but to me it seems more like the defeat of a single person than that of a whole army. The best example I could get of the kind of theme I am imagining was this.

EDIT: After listening to my example again, I realized it might give too much of a middle-age European theme, but it's the best I could find and its not a bad theme to give off.

I intended this theme to be solemn and personal, as if you are looking at not just the entire battlefield, but each soldier individually and the tragedy of their loss (there's the author in me coming out ). We will, however, certainly need an orchestrated defeat theme, maybe in the medieval period when it hasn't really dawned on anyone that it's a disaster to lose not only the battle but thousands of lives as well.

Question answered: I don't know about anyone who may have lead the team in the middle, but when this project was run on Sven's own forums, Sven ran things. Apparently not much got done besides the concept of the Organism Editor, and everybody moved over here for better hosting and because the old place wasn't being maintained. That's about when Scio dragged me into this mess, so my knowledge of the project's ancient history is pretty fuzzy. I do know, however, that discussing Svenolutions makes the oldbies go off-topic.

Ah, okay, i was interested, beacuse i noticed GamerXA made stuff which seem pretty ''Scionoty'', like ''GamerXA's cellular editor''.

That's not a sign of his taking of leadership. That's just a sign of him labelling concept he had developed with his own name.

@Oliveriver: Great to hear!

Actually for a while one of our members, Darkov, hosted the forums and basically directed the project. That only lasted a few months though, as his host was quite unreliable and he didn't have a whole lot of time to devote to the project. Myself, Alaska, Uteen, and a few others had established "bomb shelter" backup forums during the Sven days containing the most important information, and we regrouped there after Darkov's forums went offline. I took charge by making these forums.

Edit: for nostalgia's sake, I delved deep into my E-mail inbox and found the registration confirmation email from the backup forums.
Here's the link. If I remember correctly, Alaska told me to make these forums because he'd already registered the backup with Forummotion and Forummotion wouldn't let him make another set of forums. So here we are. There's some cool, nostalgic stuff on there (waaaay back in 2010) such as when we decided to be called "Thrive", and when our current forums were made (Jan 10, 2010)

~sciocont wrote:

Actually for a while one of our members, Darkov, hosted the forums and basically directed the project. That only lasted a few months though, as his host was quite unreliable and he didn't have a whole lot of time to devote to the project. Myself, Alaska, Uteen, and a few others had established "bomb shelter" backup forums during the Sven days containing the most important information, and we regrouped there after Darkov's forums went offline. I took charge by making these forums.

Edit: for nostalgia's sake, I delved deep into my E-mail inbox and found the registration confirmation email from the backup forums.
Here's the link. If I remember correctly, Alaska told me to make these forums because he'd already registered the backup with Forummotion and Forummotion wouldn't let him make another set of forums. So here we are. There's some cool, nostalgic stuff on there (waaaay back in 2010) such as when we decided to be called "Thrive", and when our current forums were made (Jan 10, 2010)

Woah, that is really interesting. Thanks, Scio!
LOL, in thread ,,forum is down'' you all sound like secret agents.

Right, I have a couple of miscellaneous points to mention here.

Firstly, I've made this gameplay video of the prototype:



From playing the prototype a few times, there are a couple of things I've noticed. Occasionally, due to the fluid dynamics, the cell will become stuck or will just move between two places for a few seconds (as you can see at 1:47 and 2:07 in the video). Furthermore, it seems to be taking up a lot of processing power for such a simple game/program. However, it is, in all honesty, very fun already. Even something as basic as moving a cell around to gain parts is enjoyable, and if I wanted to I'd have no trouble spending much longer playing it than I did in the video (note to self - don't kill your cell, it will make your species go extinct ).

The second miscellaneous point is that WJacobC and I (well, mostly Jacob admittedly) have come up with the idea of doing a Thrive podcast. Once every two weeks (or whatever time frame is eventually decided) we could use either Skype (which I don't yet have but could get if I needed to) or Steam voice chat to discuss recent updates about Thrive. Some of the ideas we've come up with so far are:

• Playing the prototypes/early releases and highlighting any recent changes (in fact, we could even have competitions during the podcast with everyone playing the prototype at the same time to see who can survive the longest).
  
• Presenting any recently composed music.
  
• News updates on all matters Thrive.
  
• Answer questions from people commenting.
  
• Interviews with the programmers themselves on their progress.

So far, Jacob's set up an RSS feed (http://wjacobc.com/thrive/thrivecast.xml ) and we've worked out how to upload it to iTunes. It would be easy to allow other members to take part in the discussion using Skype/Steam, or even simply text chat that we then read out if they don't want to reveal their voice (although I'm not sure how well that will work).

The more we thought about it the better an idea it seemed, so with everyone's permission we'd like to go ahead with it. Also, Jacob said he was going to post something here, so I apologise if I got in before him. He's probably got a few more points to add about it that I missed.

Thirdly, I'm sorry I haven't been able to update the website for a couple of weeks. I've been quite busy and haven't had enough time. I'll probably manage to update it sometime in the next few days.

Fourthly, I've had a crack at creating some concept art:

Spoiler:

It's pretty simple, but it's the best I've managed so far. The waterfall image I created myself, while I found that having the logo in the shards and adding it over the planet created quite a powerful effect.

Great job!

I know we had a discussion of voice-chatting some time back that went nowhere (possibly because we had it the week before several people's finals,) but the idea of combining it into a podcast seems both novel and a good idea: perhaps we can make it sort of like an informal devblog, explaining some concepts and chronicling the achievements of the last two weeks, or whenever we set the schedule to.

Oliver hit the nail on the head with that explanation. I think it's a great idea and sure cure the "this project looks dead, so therefore it must be dead" syndrome possible new members seem to face.
The XML file I made should be correct, but anyone with better knowledge of RSS, feel free to correct me. The iTunes specification is here.

Overall, I think this is a fantastic idea and I hope you all agree. All you will need to participate is a Skype account. If you have any questions, PM or Skype Oliver or I and we can figure it out. I thinkwe are all set though.

Thanks Oliver for going ahead and writing this, I was busy with my one and only final this morning. (Done with Freshman year! :D)

We've discussed doing a podcast before, but it fell apart due to how international the team is. We couldn't ever find a good time to do it. If we do podcast, I'd be happy do edit it, and of course I'd like to be in it. When are people (especially you two) available for a podcast? I think this weekend would be a good time. Post hours of availability in GMT. I'm open anytime this weekend.

I'd technically be able to do it from around 11:00 GMT, although I think the best time for me would probably be somewhere between 14:00 GMT and 18:00 GMT. This weekend may be a little difficult for me, but I'll see what I can do. If you give me some things you want us to mention I'll have a go at writing a script tomorrow - that is, if a script is appropriate. Do we want it to be strictly formal or a little informal?

I'm available mainly around 11:00 PM GMT for about 4 hours. I may be able to go for 10:00 GMT though. I think semi-formal would be best, perhaps a rough outline. (I think by 'you two' you mean Oliver and I , if not, oops ) Do you have a way to record a Skype call? I have a Skype MP3 Recorder, but no way to edit a Podcast unless I transfer it over to my old Mac with Garageband on it.

Oliver, are you willing to host the XML file and the audio files on your server?

One more thing: we need someone's iTunes account to post it with. I personally believe we should make a new email @revolutionarygamesstudio.com and use that for Twitter, Facebook, iTunes, etc. and have that password be dispersed to key members (~sciocont, Nick, Calli, Seregon, perhaps even Oliver, Doggit and I). We also need a contigency plan, but thats another topic entirely.

WJacobC wrote:

I'm available mainly around 11:00 PM GMT for about 4 hours. I may be able to go for 10:00 GMT though. I think semi-formal would be best, perhaps a rough outline. (I think by 'you two' you mean Oliver and I , if not, oops ) Do you have a way to record a Skype call? I have a Skype MP3 Recorder, but no way to edit a Podcast unless I transfer it over to my old Mac with Garageband on it.

Oliver, are you willing to host the XML file and the audio files on your server?

One more thing: we need someone's iTunes account to post it with. I personally believe we should make a new email @revolutionarygamesstudio.com and use that for Twitter, Facebook, iTunes, etc. and have that password be dispersed to key members (~sciocont, Nick, Calli, Seregon, perhaps even Oliver, Doggit and I). We also need a contigency plan, but thats another topic entirely.

Thrivegame1@hotmail.com is our official email, which I control.
You can record an MP3 of the podcast and send it to me for editing.
How about a podcast at 11:00 GMT Saturday (May 25th[also known as towel day, for hitchhiker's fans])?
I'd prefer to be formal: we need to be taken seriously. That being said, we can enjoy what we do as well.
If you two can both make that, it's settled. We should start the call right at 11:00 GMT to get to know each other and discuss the format. There's no need to worry about screw-ups, we can do multiple takes of whatever segments we do, but please write some scripts for what you want to say.
Any established member that wants in on the podcast, just comment here and we'll let you in on the fun. Any newbies can join as well in the form of submitting questions/statements for us to use in the podcast.

I'd be fine with that. As for hosting it, I'm also up for it, though I admit I don't really know how. I assume it's pretty simple, though.

Just use your FTP client, Oliver, and put it in a folder like /podcast. Simple. (If you want I can do it for you, I would just need the FTP info.)

And ~sciocont, don't you think it would be better to have one at revolutionarygamesstudio.com instead of old hotmail? Just my opinion.

Ninja'd while editing, so quoting myself.

Spoiler:

If you can set a new email up, that would be great.

Perfect. Oliver, there should be an option for that if you are on Bluehost, which I believe you are. Anyone who wants to join just add me on Skype (WJacobC (clever I know)). I'll make a bit of a script as well.

Would that be 11 pm or 11 am?

I will assume pm, as 11am GMT isin the middle of the night for america. 11pm might be a bit too late for europe, though. That would be 1am in europe

Daniferrito wrote:

Would that be 11 pm or 11 am?

I will assume pm, as 11am GMT isin the middle of the night for america. 11pm might be a bit too late for europe, though. That would be 1am in europe

2300 GMT, 11pm GMT

I was wondering if organisms would age in the game. And if so would it affect the organisms? Would we be seeing some animals have gray fur or some that move more slowly than others? Can organisms die of old age, so if you play as a specific organism for a while can you die randomly because the organism is too old?