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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 7:55 pm

plus if they sue us even if they r somewhat successful they just sued teenagers like loss there fan base
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 9:03 pm

There is really no point for this thread to continue. We're going to make the game anyway and we're not going to get sued.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 1:52 pm

Actually, I believe they could come up with the idea to sue us, if it's too similar to spore.
If you have a game like Spore. And a free (legal) version of the same game, just better, people would choose the free one. And EA knows that.
I'm not saying that they would. I'm just saying that it could be a risk, so we should maybe be careful with the evolutionary stages, and names.
We should think less of Spore, and more of Thrive.
We're not making a Spore clone, just a game in the Evolution genre. If we keep that in mind, we'll be allright
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 1:55 pm

Xenon wrote:
Actually, I believe they could come up with the idea to sue us, if it's too similar to spore.
If you have a game like Spore. And a free (legal) version of the same game, just better, people would choose the free one. And EA knows that.
I'm not saying that they would. I'm just saying that it could be a risk, so we should maybe be careful with the evolutionary stages, and names.
We should think less of Spore, and more of Thrive.
We're not making a Spore clone, just a game in the Evolution genre. If we keep that in mind, we'll be allright
You got a HUGE point there. We dont have to put everything we made next to spore,we just need to say ''Belgium spore,this is THRIVE! AND NOT SPARTA!'' and then throw a image of the spore logo in the trashcan.


Olol.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 3:31 pm

Xenon wrote:
Actually, I believe they could come up with the idea to sue us, if it's too similar to spore.
If you have a game like Spore. And a free (legal) version of the same game, just better, people would choose the free one. And EA knows that.
I'm not saying that they would. I'm just saying that it could be a risk, so we should maybe be careful with the evolutionary stages, and names.
We should think less of Spore, and more of Thrive.
We're not making a Spore clone, just a game in the Evolution genre. If we keep that in mind, we'll be allright

Well said.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 30, 2010 5:07 pm

All we really need to do is not mention spore.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 4:56 pm

Guys look at that!
http://www.thrive-the-game.com/HomePage.htm
There's another game called Thrive!
This will certainly be a problem!
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 14, 2010 6:36 pm

Look at the new's date. Year 2007.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 15, 2010 11:30 am

Commander Keen (Tue 14 Dec 2010 - 17:36) wrote:
Look at the new's date. Year 2007.

It exists anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 15, 2010 11:57 am

~sciocont wrote:
There is really no point for this thread to continue. We're going to make the game anyway and we're not going to get sued.

We don't care if we're gonna get sued (well, we aren't supposed to), we're just gonna make the game. By the time Thrive hits the net, Spore will be an EA classic.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 15, 2010 12:36 pm

There's billions of people doing billions of things... There's bound to be something for every word out there. I wouldn't worry about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Dec 15, 2010 1:29 pm

The Uteen wrote:
There's billions of people doing billions of things... There's bound to be something for every word out there. I wouldn't worry about it.

If you say so... I won't be so scaremonger in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 25, 2010 4:16 pm

andry796 wrote:
The Uteen wrote:
There's billions of people doing billions of things... There's bound to be something for every word out there. I wouldn't worry about it.

If you say so... I won't be so scaremonger in the future.
Considering their announcement said it was going to be released 3 years ago, and they never made any more announcements, I doubt that they are even still working on the project.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 26, 2010 12:48 pm

They could have moved to another website.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 26, 2010 12:59 pm

There would be a message saying so.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 27, 2010 7:22 pm

Fuggedaboudit.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 28, 2010 2:11 pm

One word: wemustgetbacktowork
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 12:52 am

EA would certainly try and get something on us. But maybe a solution would be to copyright "Thrive"?

bout that page, i did go thru it, and there isn`t any information what so ever about any copyright, not even any names. xcept for the one dud at "Home" wich i cant make any sense out of his name either.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 6:46 pm

I'm going to have us claim copyright on all logos, and the name.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 08, 2011 9:17 pm

Problem: Copyrights in many places require some seed money. And we'd have to do it in multiple countries, simply because we aren't a company.
Everyone have a little look around your local copyright laws... I'm assuming they're different everywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 2:50 am

The idea people don`t have to, but the ones actually make the game.

Some law of norway


* Copyright is defined in the Norwegian preparatory works as the time-limited right writers, composers, creative artists and other creators are to their work.
* The time limitation is 70 years after the author's death.
* The copyright gives the exclusive right to reproduce (copy) and spread (distribute) copies of intellectual property.
* Copyright (property rights) applies to all types of intellectual property (writing, sound, pictures, computer programs, stage works, etc..). The court gives the author the exclusive right to reproduce and disseminate their own intellectual property.
* Copy Right (copyright) is about the right to reproduce intellectual property, ie reproduction to make the work available to the public. Such rights are usually transferred from the originator of a publisher, for example, from a writer to a publisher.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 12:17 pm

Okay, so suggested legal permissions for our copyright.

1) Modding allowed so long as it is either for personal use or shared for FREE. (Pay content becomes a problem sometimes with moddable games - it annoys the sims community to death, hopefully as we're indie we won't have that problem.)
2) Something about modders who share on our site agreeing to the possibility of having their work included in an update.
3) It's free. Spread this as far as you like, for FREE. Sharing is encouraged.
4) We are not responsible for computer problems caused by a) having a computer incompatible with this (We're going to provide specs, of course) b) downloading unsupported content that messes with your computer or c) any player's individual actions/shared mods that anyone finds offensive.

Anyone who thinks of anything else that we'll need to disclaim, feel free to chime in.

AI, could you see if we need to apply for copyright to distribute in Norway? (and if it costs money...)
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 12:38 pm

The following applies only for my contribution to this project.

I give sciont the right to distribute my work under the following conditions:

He or she must include the following text in a Credits.txt file along with the download:
"The author of this program is Gabirel Osei Liland or Gabriel O. Liland."
or
"The original author of this program is Gabriel Osei Liland"

He or she must include in the same text file the following line(s):
"If you distribute this program further you must include Gabriel Osei Liland or Gabriel O. Liland as the original author in a visible way,
such as a Credits.txt file."

He or she must give me credit for my part of work in this project in general.

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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 12:56 pm

Fair. That goes in credits - Don't worry, the entire internet will probably bite us in our collective Belgiums if we leave any of you out.
A Credits thread will be going up for each completed release project, for programmers to sign their stuff. This will happen when we actually have stuff.
Public announcement over, any objections? Good.
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PostSubject: Re: Potential Legal Problems   Potential Legal Problems - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 09, 2011 2:35 pm

AIs-null wrote:
The following applies only for my contribution to this project.

I give sciont the right to distribute my work under the following conditions:

He or she must include the following text in a Credits.txt file along with the download:
"The author of this program is Gabirel Osei Liland or Gabriel O. Liland."
or
"The original author of this program is Gabriel Osei Liland"

He or she must include in the same text file the following line(s):
"If you distribute this program further you must include Gabriel Osei Liland or Gabriel O. Liland as the original author in a visible way,
such as a Credits.txt file."

He or she must give me credit for my part of work in this project in general.


Ok, got that down.
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