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PostSubject: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 4:00 pm

i was thinking in some kind of dragon-spider guy that grabed its food with some kind of arm teeth that were at the side of his mouth, ¿is that going to be possible?
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 4:24 pm

If you post that in the concept art thread it might be possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 7:29 pm

Aha, the term for these is Palps

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Probably would be a type of grasper, some arthropods on earth use these palps to guide food into their mouth, they are essentially very very small arms.
The ends are small and hairy and could probably be lined with a bio-adhesive to stick to food.
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 7:31 pm

Pezzalis wrote:
Aha, the term for these is Palps

Probably would be a type of grasper, some arthropods on earth use these palps to guide food into their mouth, they are essentially very very small arms.
The ends are small and hairy and could probably be lined with a bio-adhesive to stick to food.
Excellent post, Pezz. These will probaby be considered either graspers or jaws, depending on their range of movement.
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PostSubject: But.....   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 9:32 pm

But i think that they could be used as weapon as well, or to generate sound for comunication
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 2:06 am

kaosrain wrote:
But i think that they could be used as weapon as well, or to generate sound for comunication

Hmm, this is beginning to turn into an interesting conversation...

I opt for this to be included, anyway, but we'll need to explore this more to see if this is possible anyway. (Not just palps, but the features that kaos previously mentioned)
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PostSubject: Also   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 10:34 am

Also i thought that there could be diferent types of metaball for the head:lower jaw,upper jaw,left jaw,right jaw and palps.Also my first topic is interesting!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 12:23 pm

Mandibles.

These sound like palps, in the way they are at the sides of the mouth... Mandibles could evolve to be used as arms, or tools at least. Although, they are classed as jaws...

This is sort of off-topic, but I heard of them and they seemed similar.

Just throwing in some mandibles. That sounds revolting.
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PostSubject: re:things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 12:48 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthropod_mouthparts
check it!
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 1:45 pm

Would sucker based tentacles also be one of these?
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 2:07 pm

if they are at the sides of the mouth
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 4:39 pm

These are all arbitrary. You can have these do whatever you want them to, provided you design them right. Ex.: They grasp, but are to short to be used as arms. Therefor, they are either vestigial or depending on position they are used for a specific purpous. Our case says feeding.

Don't worry about this. The CE is very broad and you can make virtually anything imaginable in it.
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PostSubject: but   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 4:57 pm

That would be a hell of coding, bashinerox would have trouble
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 5:07 pm

kaosrain wrote:
That would be a hell of coding, bashinerox would have trouble

Actually, not much. If each use will be checked for individually, then we just need to supply him with all possibilities and they will be in.
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyMon Nov 22, 2010 5:17 pm

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kaosrain wrote:
That would be a hell of coding, bashinerox would have trouble

Actually, not much. If each use will be checked for individually, then we just need to supply him with all possibilities and they will be in.

Precicely. This example of yours is merely a grasper that has been deprived of the ability to serve certain other functions.
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PostSubject: re:things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyTue Nov 23, 2010 12:08 pm

no, its a mouth part that evolved from the mandible
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyTue Nov 23, 2010 6:35 pm

What about tentacles? Could we have a specific grasper part similar to the mouth like part on a real tentacle that can be assigned onto a boneless limb, turning it into a tentacle that can grasp things?
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyWed Nov 24, 2010 3:16 am

As long as it is physically grasp things, yes, anything that can grasp should be able to be assigned as a grasper. Yes?
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyWed Nov 24, 2010 11:21 am

Waap wrote:
As long as it is physically grasp things, yes, anything that can grasp should be able to be assigned as a grasper. Yes?
-Waap.
Yes. But if you don't want your creature picking up things with mandibles, and don't assign it that assignation, (I'd assume your creature has other arms of some kind) you can still pick things up with the mandibles, can't you? It's just that things assigned something have higher priority?
Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Things that grasp but are not graspers   Things that grasp but are not graspers EmptyWed Nov 24, 2010 11:46 am

We shuld be able to vontrol every grasper mouthpart or not, we should set priorities in the editor
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