Assigning Borders

Tenebrarum wrote:

~sciocont wrote:

The voronoi method could cover borders that aren't decided by that sort of thing.

Only as default. Always allow the player to define borders.

Naturally.

~sciocont wrote:

Tenebrarum wrote:

~sciocont wrote:

The voronoi method could cover borders that aren't decided by that sort of thing.

Only as default. Always allow the player to define borders.

Naturally.

Also, the AI should be able to bargain, not just set its own wanted borders.

Well, if you include setting borders on natural barriers and places of interest, there isn't much remaining for voronoi...

Maybe it could be used as an approximation of territory of the country, and then borders would be placed along that in harmony with nature.

Commander Keen wrote:

Well, if you include setting borders on natural barriers and places of interest, there isn't much remaining for voronoi...

Maybe it could be used as an approximation of territory of the country, and then borders would be placed along that in harmony with nature.

Actually, you could use a variant of the voronoi game and place a dot on each needed resource and SC, then create a shape connecting them all, and expantd borders from that by the same process that a voronoi diagram uses.

~sciocont wrote:

Commander Keen wrote:

Well, if you include setting borders on natural barriers and places of interest, there isn't much remaining for voronoi...

Maybe it could be used as an approximation of territory of the country, and then borders would be placed along that in harmony with nature.

Actually, you could use a variant of the voronoi game and place a dot on each needed resource and SC, then create a shape connecting them all, and expantd borders from that by the same process that a voronoi diagram uses.

Also, Scio, I think we should have a fair division system while bartering and arguing with the AI. Voronoi can be used to provide the points and likely areas of turmoil, and the most disputed sectors/points could be given the highest priority, probably subject to division themselves. We need to have AI in this, too!
EDIT: It wouldn't be fun to just go Voronoi on it and decide on a compromise.

A system of border assignment could also be used for concessions imo. Imagine: you have a nation with a gigantic trade fleet and a neighbour of yours just lost all of his trade ships in a war. That neighbour also has a huge trade port in a nice strategic position. You should be able to "draw" your borders around the Port and then tell the neighbour "I'll have this port for x years in exchange of a monthly tribute of y currency" in diplomatic negotiations. That would enable your nation to use his port as a base for your fleet and allow the neighbour to have the money to rebuild his own.

Admiral Van Tromp wrote:

A system of border assignment could also be used for concessions imo. Imagine: you have a nation with a gigantic trade fleet and a neighbour of yours just lost all of his trade ships in a war. That neighbour also has a huge trade port in a nice strategic position. You should be able to "draw" your borders around the Port and then tell the neighbour "I'll have this port for x years in exchange of a monthly tribute of y currency" in diplomatic negotiations. That would enable your nation to use his port as a base for your fleet and allow the neighbour to have the money to rebuild his own.

While thats being asked I should add: Have we actually figured out how currency will come about? I know it will be in the tech tree but after its researched are you just given branching options such as: mineral currency I.E. gold, silver, some material from the ground ect. or trading currency I.E. Trading livestock for jewelery (which is a crappy trade but just an example) or will currency also have some evolution system in place?

I think the idea was that the player chooses a resource to use as currency. It can't be to common or else everybody would be rich, and it can't be rare or else only a small part of the population would have access to it.

You brought up an interesting point we haven't discussed yet - diplomatic treaties. Certainly needs a new thread.

Commander Keen wrote:

You brought up an interesting point we haven't discussed yet - diplomatic treaties. Certainly needs a new thread.

Let me think of a good OP and I'll open it tomorrow.