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 | | Subject: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:45 am | |
| What Is the GPLThe GPL (General Public License) Is the GNU Project License. It's Main Goal Is to Protect the Freedom to Modfy or Using Softwere - Spoiler:
"The licenses for most software and other practical works are designed to take away your freedom to share and change the works. By contrast, the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change all versions of a program--to make sure it remains free software for all its users. We, the Free Software Foundation, use the GNU General Public License for most of our software; it applies also to any other work released this way by its authors. You can apply it to your programs, too."
Thing you Should know on GPL 31. There is no Warranty - Spoiler:
"THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM “AS IS” WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION."
2. No Surrender of Others' Freedom. - Spoiler:
"If conditions are imposed on you (whether by court order, agreement or otherwise) that contradict the conditions of this License, they do not excuse you from the conditions of this License. If you cannot convey a covered work so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not convey it at all. For example, if you agree to terms that obligate you to collect a royalty for further conveying from those to whom you convey the Program, the only way you could satisfy both those terms and this License would be to refrain entirely from conveying the Program."
3. contributor - Spoiler:
"A “contributor” is a copyright holder who authorizes use under this License of the Program or a work on which the Program is based. The work thus licensed is called the contributor's “contributor version”.
A contributor's “essential patent claims” are all patent claims owned or controlled by the contributor, whether already acquired or hereafter acquired, that would be infringed by some manner, permitted by this License, of making, using, or selling its contributor version, but do not include claims that would be infringed only as a consequence of further modification of the contributor version. For purposes of this definition, “control” includes the right to grant patent sublicenses in a manner consistent with the requirements of this License.
Each contributor grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license under the contributor's essential patent claims, to make, use, sell, offer for sale, import and otherwise run, modify and propagate the contents of its contributor version."
How to Apply the GPL to Your New ProgramsTo Apply the GPL to a softwere you Just Need To attach This Stuff to the start of each source file - Spoiler:
<one line to give the program's name and a brief idea of what it does.>
Copyright (C) <year> <name of author>
This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>
and each file should have at least the “copyright” line and a pointer to where the full notice is found. I hope I helped. and If you want to read the Full thing go to http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:54 am | |
| Hmmm... seems like it covers everything. We do want to allow people to mod this sucker (Yay! does our work for us! - I mean, hooray for artistic freedom...) but we don't want this to go the route of some other moddable games, where less-scrupulous beta creators try to turn a profit off of their customized content.
I reccommend that people read this one, and someone ought to grab a link to the CC that we were thinking of using. To my current knowlege, they're pretty much equal, but it would be nice to have them side by side. Scio? | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:58 am | |
| - Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Hmmm... seems like it covers everything. We do want to allow people to mod this sucker (Yay! does our work for us! - I mean, hooray for artistic freedom...) but we don't want this to go the route of some other moddable games, where less-scrupulous beta creators try to turn a profit off of their customized content.
I reccommend that people read this one, and someone ought to grab a link to the CC that we were thinking of using. To my current knowlege, they're pretty much equal, but it would be nice to have them side by side. Scio? I also think That The GPL is Nice. I can Make other Post With The CC. So People Can say What they want CC or GPL. But Than It's Up to Scio. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:36 pm | |
| Creative commons share alike 2.5
Basically does the same thing. It matters not which we use. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:58 pm | |
| Things that are the same
Rule A) Modification allowed, free redistribution allowed.
Well, we want that. Both will do.
Rule B) The rights of persons involved in the production (us) are in no way affected by this licensing.
Good for both.
All right, GPL is more precise (no warranty is somewhat assumed under creative commons - I mean, it's not like you're going to get your money back, is it?) but creative commons is easier to read.
I guess it comes down to, are we going to need this lawyer speak about warranties or not? | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:59 pm | |
| - Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Things that are the same
Rule A) Modification allowed, free redistribution allowed.
Well, we want that. Both will do.
Rule B) The rights of persons involved in the production (us) are in no way affected by this licensing.
Good for both.
All right, GPL is more precise (no warranty is somewhat assumed under creative commons - I mean, it's not like you're going to get your money back, is it?) but creative commons is easier to read.
I guess it comes down to, are we going to need this lawyer speak about warranties or not? I'd rather we choose the least ambiguous. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:01 pm | |
| Legally speaking, that would be GPL. Simply because a) it was probably written by someone with some law experience b) it mentions stuff (warranty, the rights of redistribution, the fact that no one should be making money off our free stuff) that CC doesn't. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:04 pm | |
| - Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Legally speaking, that would be GPL. Simply because a) it was probably written by someone with some law experience b) it mentions stuff (warranty, the rights of redistribution, the fact that no one should be making money off our free stuff) that CC doesn't.
CC does mention these things, (you need to read the full legal text) Like I said, they are essentially the same thing. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:54 am | |
| - ~sciocont wrote:
- Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Legally speaking, that would be GPL. Simply because a) it was probably written by someone with some law experience b) it mentions stuff (warranty, the rights of redistribution, the fact that no one should be making money off our free stuff) that CC doesn't.
CC does mention these things, (you need to read the full legal text)
Like I said, they are essentially the same thing. Okay... Warranty check, intellectual property rights check... full legal of the creative commons seems to be equal to or even more specific than GPL, at least for our purposes. At this point, I don't think that there's any specific differences that would lead us to chose one over the other, except for the status quo that we already have a CC one going. License issue resolved, I guess. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:26 am | |
| - Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- ~sciocont wrote:
- Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Legally speaking, that would be GPL. Simply because a) it was probably written by someone with some law experience b) it mentions stuff (warranty, the rights of redistribution, the fact that no one should be making money off our free stuff) that CC doesn't.
CC does mention these things, (you need to read the full legal text)
Like I said, they are essentially the same thing.
Okay... Warranty check, intellectual property rights check... full legal of the creative commons seems to be equal to or even more specific than GPL, at least for our purposes.
At this point, I don't think that there's any specific differences that would lead us to chose one over the other, except for the status quo that we already have a CC one going. License issue resolved, I guess.
Well... I think we need A Lawyer to Decide what is The Best License for us. And there is Ideology, if you want to help the GNU project use the GPL. Maybe we Can look for a lawyer to Volunteer and Help us with Stuff like this. P.S I'm Am Looking At Both licenses now To find any differences. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:24 pm | |
| Sure, I'll just walk around campus looking to pick up a law major... oh, wait. Yeah, anyone who has a lawyer friend/family member could have them have a look at it, but it seems pretty straightforward from here. There's considerably less regulation in the realm of community goods than when someone stands to make a profit.
As far as I know, CC is also applicable in multiple countries, the only other consideration that I could think of that wasn't stated here already. I obviously don't know if this is the same for GPL, but I'm assuming so, as most of what it would cover would be internet based.
Basically, if we find a problem with CC that GPL will fix, we'd switch, but that's probably not necessary right now. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:30 pm | |
| - Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Sure, I'll just walk around campus looking to pick up a law major... oh, wait. Yeah, anyone who has a lawyer friend/family member could have them have a look at it, but it seems pretty straightforward from here. There's considerably less regulation in the realm of community goods than when someone stands to make a profit.
As far as I know, CC is also applicable in multiple countries, the only other consideration that I could think of that wasn't stated here already. I obviously don't know if this is the same for GPL, but I'm assuming so, as most of what it would cover would be internet based.
Basically, if we find a problem with CC that GPL will fix, we'd switch, but that's probably not necessary right now. Well, In my openion GPL is better... I think that we should use the GPL to Support the cause. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| - ido66667 wrote:
- Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Sure, I'll just walk around campus looking to pick up a law major... oh, wait. Yeah, anyone who has a lawyer friend/family member could have them have a look at it, but it seems pretty straightforward from here. There's considerably less regulation in the realm of community goods than when someone stands to make a profit.
As far as I know, CC is also applicable in multiple countries, the only other consideration that I could think of that wasn't stated here already. I obviously don't know if this is the same for GPL, but I'm assuming so, as most of what it would cover would be internet based.
Basically, if we find a problem with CC that GPL will fix, we'd switch, but that's probably not necessary right now.
Well, In my openion GPL is better...
I think that we should use the GPL to Support the cause. Ok. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:44 am | |
| - ~sciocont wrote:
- ido66667 wrote:
- Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
- Sure, I'll just walk around campus looking to pick up a law major... oh, wait. Yeah, anyone who has a lawyer friend/family member could have them have a look at it, but it seems pretty straightforward from here. There's considerably less regulation in the realm of community goods than when someone stands to make a profit.
As far as I know, CC is also applicable in multiple countries, the only other consideration that I could think of that wasn't stated here already. I obviously don't know if this is the same for GPL, but I'm assuming so, as most of what it would cover would be internet based.
Basically, if we find a problem with CC that GPL will fix, we'd switch, but that's probably not necessary right now.
Well, In my openion GPL is better...
I think that we should use the GPL to Support the cause. Ok.
Can you expend? | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:16 am | |
| Bump!
BTW, Here is why we should not use Creative commons:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/243196/what-is-the-difference-between-creative-commons-and-gpl-licensing
Basicly, Creative commons was not orginaly for Software, So, there is no mantion of stuff like source code, Or linking from code with anothe licence, The LGPL was Orginaly for stuff like librarys, as it allows you to link from a diffrent Licence code...
I think we should use a GPL and LGPL hybrid, I mean, For the librarys we can use LGPL, and for all the Other stuff we can use GPL. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:16 am | |
| - ido66667 wrote:
- Bump!
BTW, Here is why we should not use Creative commons:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/243196/what-is-the-difference-between-creative-commons-and-gpl-licensing
Basicly, Creative commons was not orginaly for Software, So, there is no mantion of stuff like source code, Or linking from code with anothe licence, The LGPL was Orginaly for stuff like librarys, as it allows you to link from a diffrent Licence code...
I think we should use a GPL and LGPL hybrid, I mean, For the librarys we can use LGPL, and for all the Other stuff we can use GPL. Ok. GPL/LGPL it is. | |
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| | Subject: Re: GPL 3 Explanation Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:18 pm | |
| - ~sciocont wrote:
- ido66667 wrote:
- Bump!
BTW, Here is why we should not use Creative commons:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/243196/what-is-the-difference-between-creative-commons-and-gpl-licensing
Basicly, Creative commons was not orginaly for Software, So, there is no mantion of stuff like source code, Or linking from code with anothe licence, The LGPL was Orginaly for stuff like librarys, as it allows you to link from a diffrent Licence code...
I think we should use a GPL and LGPL hybrid, I mean, For the librarys we can use LGPL, and for all the Other stuff we can use GPL. Ok. GPL/LGPL it is. I am glad. Now, after this massege, Please don't post anything... | |
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