Thermosynthesis

~sciocont wrote:

Pezzalis wrote:

~sciocont wrote:

No, that is not thermosynthesis, that is simply an adaptation for a cold-bloded creature to get warmer faster.
You see, lots of blood ran through the sail, and that made it very prone to pick up heat from the outside. Because the sun comes up on the horizon, the creature's sail would extend it's surface area on its sunward side in the mornings so that it would be up and ready before other animals were, giving it a huge advantage over the other cold-blooded animals.

Hmmm yes but wouldnt a Thermosynthesis organ be something in design which picks up as much heat as possible...
So something like a sail

Or more or less the Thermosynthesis organ is contained within an area with a small volume...

Most likely it would need a lot of surface area, however, a sail doesn't give the most surface area, because it needs to be flat so it doesn't shadow itself or trap heat. A better thermosynthetic organ would look like a primitive gill, getting as much surface area as possible.
*Axolotl*

Hmmm yes you're probably right...
So probably something resembling that...

Those gills remind me of root cells in a plant...
They have a long stem off the standard cytoplasm shape to increase surface area... Thus more water is diffused... Will thermo synthesis be incorporated into cell stage if incorporated at all...?

Pezzalis wrote:

~sciocont wrote:

Pezzalis wrote:

~sciocont wrote:

No, that is not thermosynthesis, that is simply an adaptation for a cold-bloded creature to get warmer faster.
You see, lots of blood ran through the sail, and that made it very prone to pick up heat from the outside. Because the sun comes up on the horizon, the creature's sail would extend it's surface area on its sunward side in the mornings so that it would be up and ready before other animals were, giving it a huge advantage over the other cold-blooded animals.

Hmmm yes but wouldnt a Thermosynthesis organ be something in design which picks up as much heat as possible...
So something like a sail

Or more or less the Thermosynthesis organ is contained within an area with a small volume...

Most likely it would need a lot of surface area, however, a sail doesn't give the most surface area, because it needs to be flat so it doesn't shadow itself or trap heat. A better thermosynthetic organ would look like a primitive gill, getting as much surface area as possible.
*Axolotl*

Hmmm yes you're probably right...
So probably something resembling that...

Those gills remind me of root cells in a plant...
They have a long stem off the standard cytoplasm shape to increase surface area... Thus more water is diffused... Will thermo synthesis be incorporated into cell stage if incorporated at all...?

I would say it should definitely be in single-celled play. It makes the most sense for a single- celled organism.

I don't know how much use it would actually be in the Single-Cell Play.

GamerXA wrote:

I don't know how much use it would actually be in the Single-Cell Play.

It's as good as Chloroplasts.

it depends of how efficient it is

Commander Keen wrote:

GamerXA wrote:

I don't know how much use it would actually be in the Single-Cell Play.

It's as good as Chloroplasts.

Even better if they are clustered around a hot vent, and that's one suggested location for the origin of life.

Again, I hate to be the one ret*rd who says this, but let's add this to the OE and see what auto-evo does.

Personally, I feel that this would only be truely efficient on planets much hotter than earth, seeing as even our hot srings' life seems to prefer chemosynthesis. However I won't rule it out until the system does.

I'm all for a thermosyntheitic organ.

~sciocont wrote:

I'm all for a thermosyntheitic organ.

I'd suggest just a type of sensitive skin. This would allow structures to be built around effeciency and still vary greatly.

you know, if something wanted a lot of surface area, it could sprout a heatsink-esque thing, or a bunch of sails kind of folded over onto themselves.

also, wouldn't it be hard to implement a thermosynthesis organ, since so many surface area algorithms would have to be made to fit all the different varieties someone could think up?

toxiciron wrote:

you know, if something wanted a lot of surface area, it could sprout a heatsink-esque thing, or a bunch of sails kind of folded over onto themselves.

also, wouldn't it be hard to implement a thermosynthesis organ, since so many surface area algorithms would have to be made to fit all the different varieties someone could think up?

We would simply give it a relative efficiency depending on relative size.

Tenebrarum wrote:

Again, I hate to be the one ret*rd who says this, but let's add this to the OE and see what auto-evo does.

Personally, I feel that this would only be truely efficient on planets much hotter than earth, seeing as even our hot srings' life seems to prefer chemosynthesis. However I won't rule it out until the system does.

THRIVE wiki told us autoevo resulted in a mass of problems!