Sound from TOs

How are we planning to handle sound from tech objects? Prerecorded sounds seem rather insufficient for the wide variety of TOs that might be created.

Prerecorded things are all we can have, unless you want to synthethize them (produces bad sound) or simulate sound waves (impossible without converting your computer to ashes).

Commander Keen wrote:

Prerecorded things are all we can have, unless you want to synthethize them (produces bad sound) or simulate sound waves (impossible without converting your computer to ashes).

Nice.

We should have a few basic Sounds for the TOs, such as:
* Wood rubbing against Wood
* Metal rubbing against Metal
* Internal Combustion
* Rapidly Spinning Object
* Spring-type Sound for Catapults and Other Such Mechanisms
* Electricity
* Flames
* Water Flowing

GamerXA wrote:

We should have a few basic Sounds for the TOs, such as:
* Wood rubbing against Wood
* Metal rubbing against Metal
* Internal Combustion
* Rapidly Spinning Object
* Spring-type Sound for Catapults and Other Such Mechanisms
* Electricity
* Flames
* Water Flowing

Would sounds come from PFs, or be assigned to completed TOs by the player?

I believe it would be more efficient to assign sounds to FPs rather than guessing what the TOs as a whole might sound like.

That makes sense. Players would therefore have to define sounds for their own FPs, yes?

Xenopologist wrote:

That makes sense. Players would therefore have to define sounds for their own FPs, yes?

...No. I don't think they need to.

GamerXA wrote:

I believe it would be more efficient to assign sounds to FPs rather than guessing what the TOs as a whole might sound like.

QFT

I'm sorry, I know this is a noobish question and off-topic, but what is an FP?

There might be problems with wood, because different planets will have different organism composition.

For the meaning of FPs, try searching a bit, there is surely a topic covering it.

There are no noobish question when you're asking for information, only noobish answers.

We could narrow down the wood scraping sounds to just a generic scraping sound, though this might have a few problems.

We'll need a fair amount of sounds for this.

Wood creaking
Metal Creaking
The thud of released tension (Bows make a disinctive thud noise, not a twang.)
The soft rumble of a future-tech engine
The click of a camera
The sounds of the organisms operating the TO, or just living in it.
The crackle of a wood/coal fire
The whir of a gas fire
The squeek of a wheel
Static

We also need the ability to tag an object as a certain insturment so it can be used for songs.

Albalrogue wrote:

I'm sorry, I know this is a noobish question and off-topic, but what is an FP?

other>abbreviations dictionary

Tenebrarum wrote:

We'll need a fair amount of sounds for this.

Wood creaking
Metal Creaking
The thud of released tension (Bows make a disinctive thud noise, not a twang.)
The soft rumble of a future-tech engine
The click of a camera
The sounds of the organisms operating the TO, or just living in it.
The crackle of a wood/coal fire
The whir of a gas fire
The squeek of a wheel
Static

We also need the ability to tag an object as a certain insturment so it can be used for songs.

I didn't think we were using instruments in songs? What would it contribute if's going to have prerecorded sounds anyways?

US_of_Alaska wrote:

I didn't think we were using instruments in songs? What would it contribute if's going to have prerecorded sounds anyways?

Intruments in songs allow... well... intruments in songs. If I make a drum in the TE, and tag it as such, than my critters can play any songs tagged only with drums. Animations would be done by the player.

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

I didn't think we were using instruments in songs? What would it contribute if's going to have prerecorded sounds anyways?

Intruments in songs allow... well... intruments in songs. If I make a drum in the TE, and tag it as such, than my critters can play any songs tagged only with drums. Animations would be done by the player.

When do your critters "play" anything?

US_of_Alaska wrote:

When do your critters "play" anything?

Celebrations, free time, ceremonies, battle-hymns, sea-shanty style work music, the list goes on.

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

When do your critters "play" anything?

Celebrations, free time, ceremonies, battle-hymns, sea-shanty style work music, the list goes on.

I don't think these things will really be displayed. Celebrations and ceremonies would likely be too fiddly to actually display in the game. They'd just be represented through bonuses in religions and stuff like that.

US_of_Alaska wrote:

I don't think these things will really be displayed. Celebrations and ceremonies would likely be too fiddly to actually display in the game. They'd just be represented through bonuses in religions and stuff like that.

Not really.

Example:
You'd just need to have say, a hapiness bonus when a victorious army returns home. The creatures would do standard 'happy' animations. Now, you could edit this in the culture editor, by telling the creatures to get off the streets when the soldiers arrive. Now, tell the soldiers to march around the city streets in formation. Save this action under the name, 'Parade' and tell the game to carry it out whenever victorious soldiers return to an SC. All done in culture editor.

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

I don't think these things will really be displayed. Celebrations and ceremonies would likely be too fiddly to actually display in the game. They'd just be represented through bonuses in religions and stuff like that.

Not really.

Example:
You'd just need to have say, a hapiness bonus when a victorious army returns home. The creatures would do standard 'happy' animations. Now, you could edit this in the culture editor, by telling the creatures to get off the streets when the soldiers arrive. Now, tell the soldiers to march around the city streets in formation. Save this action under the name, 'Parade' and tell the game to carry it out whenever victorious soldiers return to an SC. All done in culture editor.

Nation Editor. And where would it fit?

I wrote:

Government
-Leaders
-Legislation
-Power
-Domestic Policy
-Foreign Policy
-Economic Policy

Society
-Religion
-Social Programs and Welfare
-Aesthetics and Entertainment
-Ethics

Economy
-Resources
-Technology
-Education
-Media

US_of_Alaska wrote:

And where would it fit?

Entertainment, as it would give a happiness bonus.

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

And where would it fit?

Entertainment, as it would give a happiness bonus.

So celebrations would be alongside Arts and Sports? That makes sense.

US_of_Alaska wrote:

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

And where would it fit?

Entertainment, as it would give a happiness bonus.

So celebrations would be alongside Arts and Sports? That makes sense.

Yup. A VERY simple editor for posing and sequncing animations would let us do pretty much whatever we want. Most players won't have the patience to make them, but when exploring other cultures it would up the experience massively, as would art and sport.

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

Tenebrarum wrote:

US_of_Alaska wrote:

And where would it fit?

Entertainment, as it would give a happiness bonus.

So celebrations would be alongside Arts and Sports? That makes sense.

Yup. A VERY simple editor for posing and sequncing animations would let us do pretty much whatever we want. Most players won't have the patience to make them, but when exploring other cultures it would up the experience massively, as would art and sport.

I still feel that it would fit best as a mod. Because we don't want to have to weigh the game down for the minimalists.