Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

Daniferrito wrote:

Basically, yes, it is sandbox mode, but in the same galaxy you were before. You can also control ANY creature in first person mode or Any gropu of individuals as if you were their leader (RTS mode). I'm not sure about if your entire species gets transformed, or only a few specimens (which would mean your species stays where it is)

I think perhaps only a few specimens should ascend, it might be kind of annoying just for everything to disappear and you would still want a "base of operations.

I presume this unlocks sandbox mode in the menus, or is sandbox aready unlocked?

Immortal_Dragon wrote:

NickTheNick wrote:

Immortal_Dragon wrote:

1. If playing as a machine race, what about if some of your technology/brethren is discovered and reactivated by a less advanced species, will you regain control over it, or will it simply go rogue? (Would make a great story)

You cannot play as a machine race.

Maybe that should be changed to a race that can create sentient machines/tech, that would be more feasible, but what about replacing your species' bodies with machinery, I remember a thread about that. And I can be somewhat certain that creating sentient robots is possible.

You can add machinery attachments, yes, or have bionic units. You can also create sentient robots. However, you cannot play as those robots, and robot/machine parts only enhance your abilities.

@Inca:

Yeah, sounds fair enough. Your species would just stay the way it was, and the whole galaxy becomes a sandbox. It is essentially the end of a game in Thrive. We could even include a timestamp for the player once they ascend, so that they can compete with their old times or their friends' times.

So, has there been a verdict on units with multiple weapons? I'm talking about more than just vehicles, what about soldiers with more than one weapon, not saying dual-wielding but maybe primary and secondary weapons?

Well ranged units should have a secondary melee weapon they can use if they get into close combat surely.

As long as they have the weight capacity to carry both, and we have a somewhat easy algorithm to help AI deciding whe to use wich (when to swap), i see no problem.

So, three questions I think I have.

1. What about actual dual-wielding, but let's be reasonable, only Terminators can use weapons that should be two-handed in one hand.

2. Might be better under the megastructures thread, but what about planet-wide cities like Coruscant from Star Wars? The buildings got so tall the only areas on the actual surface are like slums.

3. Vehicles with multiple weapons, would they fire on all valid targets with their weapons, or more of a Galactic Civilizations approach, they can attack n number of enemies where n=no. of weapons?

This wording might not be clear, it is late.

1. Only melee weapons can go akimbo, even though that means no dual wielding uzis are pistols (rare to find that on a battlefield anyways though).
 
2. Sure thing. If you really put your heart to this, you could probably even do it before Space Stage. There's nothing stopping it from happening (It depends on what would happen with the oceans).

3. Yeah, more weapons means more targets.

Can you create a species with a digestive system like a sauropod, where they need to eat something, like stones, to aid digestion? I'd love to see that.

Hey, Portal here, this is my first post, so I just want to ask a few questions:

First, is c++ a coding language? I've dabbled in programming, but I want to make myself as useful as possible.

Second, will I be able to make full-on traits? I don't want level 3 charge, I want to swallow my prey whole, digesting it as it goes down my throat so that, by the time it reaches my stomach, it's a sludge to puke at predator's eyes(with all the nutrients sucked out of course) to make a speedy getaway?

Third, as a suggestion to the forum itself, someone should make a new thread devoted to new members introducing themselves.

Fourth, can ascension be turned off before you start a new game? I don't like the idea of my species, which I've spent so much effort into, being turned into energy.

Fifth, will the editors be as fun and easy as spore's editors? That was a really well done part of the game.

Sixth, do you think that, if this game releases, it will be turned into one of those inspiring movies? Sorry, that question was just burning in my mind.

1. I know nothing of coding.

2. If you mean like a snake, possibly, depending on the coding, which is a long-shot guess from me. You can carry or crush animals depending on your size and theirs.

3. https://thrivegame.canadaboard.net/f5-introductions

4. I think Ascension is optional, because you are not forced to advance.

5. Fun, maybe. Easy? No. You have to determine some in-depth biological things about your creature, including digestive system...reproductive (It's nature, sorry.) You can also determine what skin looks like and where it is. (Beaks can be made without needing a mouth part) You also edit how your species will behave. But you can still take them for a 'test drive'. There will be a large area of what I'm guessing would be a copy of part of your planet's landscape, and you can move your creature around and learn how it will move in the actual game. You can also make flight membranes if you ever wanted a mutant bat to call your own. Nothing about the editors will be 'easy.'

6. You're supposed to be able to make machinimas easily, if I recall a post correctly, but other than that, I'm going to go Dalek right here. Ahem...Explain. Explain! EXPLAIN!!!

1. Yes, it is.

2. There are no traits. Only an organism and its body/organs. If your body/organs permits you to do that, then yes.

3. There is actually a whole subforum for people to create threads to introduce themselves. It's called the Introductions subforum.

4. Then just don't build an ascension gate.

5. Obviously we're going to try and make them fun. We're also going to make them understandable, but not easy, to allow for complexity and diversity.

6. I don't think an inspiring movie, but maybe an example of the potential (and workload) of online open-source projects.

1. OK, I guess someone else would answer that question.

2. Yes, a snakelike thing was exactly what I was thinking of.

3. Well, I guess we both know what thread I'm going to next!

4. I'm glad that my collection of fly-men don't have to be absorbed into the very fabric of the universe.

5. Sorry, what I meant was intuitive.

6. What I meant was something like a sports movie, where one small team gradually rises through the ranks, where, at the end, they take on the biggest jerks who also happen to be the the strongest team. (EA, anyone?)

Thanks Dino, you were a great help!

Sorry, NicktheNick, I posted before I saw your message.

A sports movie? No. You have to evolve from a cell to a space-faring race. Likely, besides for a few generations, you're not going to encounter the same groups of species too many times, especially if you have to go through a mass extinction event. You better hope your fly things can dig if you go through one.

No worries.

Also, in space battles, if you controlled a ship, would the combat be similar to FTL in the sense that you have to deal with fires, breaches, and intruders? Also, Dino, I think you misunderstood me. I meant the actual development of the game, not the game itself.

I believe so Portal, or at least I hope so.

Now stop me if this has been discussed already but will there be an advanced behavior or life style option implemented into the game? I merely ask because I have a few ideas on some options.

Behavior
Loner: Survive alone and only come together for breeding purposes.
Herd: Survival when safety in numbers is essential.
Pack: Live as a small group and members can break off when pack size gets to large.
Dependent: Can only live under certain conditions, leaving condition can cause injury or death.

Lifestyle
Migratory: Move large distances to find food and breeding grounds.
Non migratory: Can survive in an area without large prey items.
Hibernate: Survive weather conditions by sleeping through them. (use black screen to speed up time to restore area to slightly changed or same environment.
Seasonal: Move to certain area during weather or season change. (mammoths believed to move to pine forests during winter and plains during summer.)

Diet
Herbivore
Carnivore
Omnivore
Insectivore

Thanks for your time and hope this idea isn't already posted.

Daniferrito wrote:

Another batch of questions. In the previous ones, i agree with scio answers completelly.

1. Eventually, yes
   
2. Probably not
   
3. Yes
   
4. You can do either way
   
5. Yes, all creatures will
   
6. Yes
   
7. Yes
   
8. ??
   
9. Will have everything from older times, plus more fp avaibles
   
10. Yes, but that will be only for yourself, it wont have any real beefits.
    
11. Hopefully.
    
12. Obviously
    
13. Actually, evolution trees will be mostly linear. I dont know what you mean here
    
14. Eventually
    
15. Last time i checked, there was a debate wheter it would be realistic or not for life to evolve there
    
16. Yes
    

8:I ment like HOW MANY PARTS (Claws Feet etc.) will the game have...
13:Evoluton Tree Cataloging (Naming Races from fosiles and living relatives)


NEW QUESTION:
Archeology <_>???

Can our creatures do archeology?(Like I die before aware stage and my aware selfe examines my past selfe trought fossiles..)

HELLO ONLINE PERSON :DDD

@Shamanic Wolf

I think everything in your post is covered, the behavior editor of the OE will allow you to change the behaviors of NPC members of your species, and the different diets, I will quote ~scio and post that any diet is possible, even liquivore.

Shamanic W0lf wrote:

Now stop me if this has been discussed already but will there be an advanced behavior or life style option implemented into the game? I merely ask because I have a few ideas on some options.

Behavior
Loner: Survive alone and only come together for breeding purposes.
Herd: Survival when safety in numbers is essential.
Pack: Live as a small group and members can break off when pack size gets to large.
Dependent: Can only live under certain conditions, leaving condition can cause injury or death.

Lifestyle
Migratory: Move large distances to find food and breeding grounds.
Non migratory: Can survive in an area without large prey items.
Hibernate: Survive weather conditions by sleeping through them. (use black screen to speed up time to restore area to slightly changed or same environment.
Seasonal: Move to certain area during weather or season change. (mammoths believed to move to pine forests during winter and plains during summer.)

Diet
Herbivore
Carnivore
Omnivore
Insectivore

Thanks for your time and hope this idea isn't already posted.

Behaviors and lifestyles are considered merged, and are dynamically customized by the player, instead of choosing from presets. Diet as well, it's not just a preset, but something that dynamically varies on what your mouth and digestive system allow you to eat.

Thanks for the feedback guys, and again my bad, I figured it was already discussed. :oops: 

These are some of the strangest occurrences in nature, because it involves two or more species working together for survival. An example is the cleaner wrasse, which groom other fish species of parasites and annoying bits of food, and the wrasse gets a meal, there are also many 'speculative' forms of symbiosis. In 'The Future is Wild', a 2003 documentary made by the Discovery Channel, there was a species of segmented worm that evolved 200 million years after man-kind disappeared. They evolved branched forms of skin which contained algae. The algae were given water and sunlight as the worm went about its day, and producing food. In return, some of the sugars created were given to the worm, as a source of nourishment, if not their only nourishment. This is Mutualism, the first type of symbiosis.

Then there's Commensialism, where only one organism benefits. An example is the Honey Badger or Ratel of Africa. The Honey Badger hunts actively for food such as mice, snakes, or bee hives. A type of bird known as the Honeyguide will wait for the Honey Badger to break into a bee hive and eat the larva, because the Comb Eater only wants the abandoned husks. The Combeater benefits because the Honey Badger had to work for its meal, and the Comb Eater does not.

Then finally, the most bothersome and possible fatal, is parasitism. Everyone knows what a parasite is. A common example is the mosquito, which drinks the blood of its victim. Parasitism is the act of harming, but not killing another organism directly while using them for nutrients. Parasites, of course, can transmit disease unknowingly, some of which can be potentially fatal. I went over disease before in another post as an example for minor extinction, but dropped the possibility of parasites in the game, but I got thinking on many things, the post, my cat having a recent problem with ear mites, and even a few games, and now I just went into a complete symbiosis thought process.

I see no reason, besides difficult coding, why symbiosis can not be added into Thrive. Commensialism will be in there whether we like it or not, there will be scavengers, and they will want the leftovers.

Mutualism can take many forms. Some crabs use corals and anemones for defense, as weapons or a disguise. The crabs are protected, and the coral and anemones get food. Some can be like the cleaner wrasse, where one species can groom others for a meal, and thus relieving the distress of the afflicted animal. Other possible forms could be thought up.

Parasitism usually takes place in insects on larger creatures, but they can get up to the size of a bat, which leave open wounds in their victim to return to later.

All of these, of course, can vary in Thrive, because you can determine how it would work between your species and others. Maybe you're the local barber and groomer, maybe you use another species, or another species uses you, for protection. Or maybe you go around spreading disease by feeding off of the fluids of your prey, leaving them later with irritating pain and bacteria crawling through their blood vessels.

Conversation starts now.

Just posting to let you know I merged this with this thread. Remember that questions and suggestions should start on this thread. This is a good example of why, because symbiosis is a question commonly asked and answered. It doesn't need its own thread.