Decision Time

- Agriculture function part plough: Animal Husbandry convenient, but unnecessary. Some species would be strong enough to pull it, and humans have used (small) ploughs and similar implements before without beasts of burden. I think Animal Husbandry should increase the efficiency.
- In Sailing's TO's, a Lighthouse needs fire as an additional prerequisite.
- Trade should probably have sailing as an alternative requirement too. Though that might not fit so well when "Sailing and Trade" is one of the possible requirements for seafaring... which, come to think of it, is more of where the lighthouse should go.
- I'm not certain about the "Monotheism boosts conversion rates." The romans did just fine adopting local gods and persuading locals to accept, at least superficially, their polytheistic religion.
- Logically, an "alphabet" is not necessesary to "literature" (check out the ancient egyptians, who never could figure out if their hieroglyphs were letters or actual symbols) but as it's necessary for the spread of literature beyond the priveleged few, and as it aids our organization, I say keep it. Oral tradition should be an additional prerequisite for Lit.
- What exactly is the reasoning behind Democracy requiring an alphabet?
- Aesthetics might also need trade.
- I understand why sanitation would require canals. But what about in desert areas? My alternative would be to have "irrigation" as an invention much earlier on. (Integrating canals and irrigation might be a little stringent for just irrigation.)
- Guilds should probably have aesthetics and trade as suitable alternatives to machinery.
- For Chivalry, Feudalism should be an alternative to Civil Service, probably.
- Cartography: not all maps are made of paper. But for the sake of our sanity, sure.
- What exactly does a screw propeller have to do with water sports? Am I missing something?
- For firefighting, the hose should probably require some later stage manufacturing type thing as well as sanitation.
- Civil service should probably be added as an alternative trigger for Compulsory education.
- Flight can also be achieved in hot air baloons or dirigibles (chemistry/thermodynamics/replaceable parts, at least.) Ultralight aircraft have also been made, some of them running on bicycle power. Maybe we should split into "flight" the discovery and "air vessels" the invention.
- Public transport: Do we have a sub category for general services for the populace? (Somewhere near "welfare," probably.)
- Under "Computer" the actual "computer" item spans everything from the enigma machine (world war 2 era) through that thing with the vaccum tubes in the 60's/70's, to what I'm using now. I can look up some old names that generalize that far if you like.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

Agriculture function part plough: Animal Husbandry convenient, but unnecessary. Some species would be strong enough to pull it, and humans have used (small) ploughs and similar implements before without beasts of burden. I think Animal Husbandry should increase the efficiency.

Well, there'd be no increase in efficiency unless the player attached them to a beast of burden. But i agree withthe rest of the statement. It makes sense that a plow can be used from agriculture on, but it would require stone or wooden tools.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- In Sailing's TO's, a Lighthouse needs fire as an additional prerequisite.

That's true. Will add a note.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Trade should probably have sailing as an alternative requirement too. Though that might not fit so well when "Sailing and Trade" is one of the possible requirements for seafaring... which, come to think of it, is more of where the lighthouse should go.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- I'm not certain about the "Monotheism boosts conversion rates." The romans did just fine adopting local gods and persuading locals to accept, at least superficially, their polytheistic religion.

One of the things about monotheism is that it is not lenient. "There is one god. We are right and everything else is wrong." This ultimatum converted people, like it or not. So it's logical that one of the bonuses from a Monotheistic religion is that it has better conversion rates.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Logically, an "alphabet" is not necessesary to "literature" (check out the ancient egyptians, who never could figure out if their hieroglyphs were letters or actual symbols) but as it's necessary for the spread of literature beyond the priveleged few, and as it aids our organization, I say keep it. Oral tradition should be an additional prerequisite for Lit.

That's true, i didn't think of that link.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- What exactly is the reasoning behind Democracy requiring an alphabet?

I think it's because alphabet allows better communication of new ideas.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Aesthetics might also need trade.

I don't see why.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- I understand why sanitation would require canals. But what about in desert areas? My alternative would be to have "irrigation" as an invention much earlier on. (Integrating canals and irrigation might be a little stringent for just irrigation.)

Well the player and ai can make irrigation using simple commands to workers, they don't need a research for it.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Guilds should probably have aesthetics and trade as suitable alternatives to machinery.

This makes sense.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- For Chivalry, Feudalism should be an alternative to Civil Service, probably.

Makes sense, they're all societal and based on loyalty.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- What exactly does a screw propeller have to do with water sports? Am I missing something?

I'm not sure, but there was a reason. We'll see what Rex says.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- For firefighting, the hose should probably require some later stage manufacturing type thing as well as sanitation.

Why does firefighting need a hose?

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Civil service should probably be added as an alternative trigger for Compulsory education.

As a trigger? Those researches are a long ways apart.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Flight can also be achieved in hot air baloons or dirigibles (chemistry/thermodynamics/replaceable parts, at least.) Ultralight aircraft have also been made, some of them running on bicycle power. Maybe we should split into "flight" the discovery and "air vessels" the invention.

Makes sense. Would balloons be an invention?

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Public transport: Do we have a sub category for general services for the populace? (Somewhere near "welfare," probably.)

What do you mean subcategory?

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

- Under "Computer" the actual "computer" item spans everything from the enigma machine (world war 2 era) through that thing with the vaccum tubes in the 60's/70's, to what I'm using now. I can look up some old names that generalize that far if you like.

Didn't i have that covered in FPs? I'll have to check...