Miscellaneous Bugs And Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

Bear in mind that these stages are dynamic and there will be no cutscenes etc. They exist to help development. The mulitcellular stage begins when your cell bonds to another. Then they add more and more, become specialized and then when your creature reaches a certain level of intelligence you enter the aware stage.

Speaking of which, how will intelligence be handled?

Atrox wrote:

Speaking of which, how will intelligence be handled?

With difficulty.

moopli wrote:

Atrox wrote:

Speaking of which, how will intelligence be handled?

With difficulty.

So there is no foundation for how our creature will gain intelligence?

More or less, we haven't nailed anything concrete down yet. There's a vague concept from a few years ago I think, in which intelligence is gained by "interaction", but of course there are many definitions for interaction and I don't think we've really talked about it since. If you wanna start a discussion about it though, go ahead.

I have a question about Society Stage: let's say your at war with another nation, which is far away from yours. When you send your troops to attack it, they might get tired during the journey, so could they set up a camp?

Would that be a form of Military Center?

StealthStyle L wrote:

Would that be a form of Military Center?

A camp is provisional and consists of simple shelters. It will serve the troops to rest in case they will be tired.
A Military Center is something much bigger (like a barrack) and will require good materials to be built and will be made to last.

The download for 0.2.3 (or, I assume, any of the downloads) appears to be down. I imagine this will resolve with time but you should take a look. One of my friends who knows some coding would like to take a look.

the download seems to go down occasionally. It happened to me too but I tried later and it was okay.

The reliability of the download is entirely on the shoulders of the hosts; so your friend with programming knowledge can't really help, I'm afraid. If, though, they want to help out, they'd be a lot more useful reading the code and applying their programming knowledge on the team; if they're interested.

I've mentioned it before, but the download link often seems to fail for some people because part of the URL is unnecessarily duplicated. This might have something to do with the hyperlink in the release post. For some it repeatedly does this, but others haven't experienced it at all.

For reference, the URL changes from https://mega.co.nz/#!VVYngZLI!Q3imY-eV9kL2W0SIeY2XnhNxDOvdofRbhkrzQqPr1sQ to https://mega.co.nzmega.co.nz/#!VVYngZLI!Q3imY-eV9kL2W0SIeY2XnhNxDOvdofRbhkrzQqPr1sQ .

moopli wrote:

The reliability of the download is entirely on the shoulders of the hosts; so your friend with programming knowledge can't really help, I'm afraid. If, though, they want to help out, they'd be a lot more useful reading the code and applying their programming knowledge on the team; if they're interested.

Actually, he just wanted to try it out to see how the game is in it's current state. He'll likely apply to help sooner or later. However, he does not currently know C++ but since I'm not someone with programming knowledge I'll let him talk about it when he applies.

I've seen that the timescale in Aware Stage will be millions of years, then in Awakening Stage thousands of years, and then it keeps diminishing. But what about Microbes and Multicellular? What is the timescale of those two?

Billions of years probably.

Atrox wrote:

Billions of years probably.

I'd rather have multiple million years be the timescale. Eukaryotes (what the player plays as) only appeared around 2 billion years ago, and took about 1400 million years to go multicellular, so using billions of years as a time scale would be rather awkward.

Good point

Will the cell wall be represented by a change in opaqueness/texture of the membrane, or something else?

ElementalRed wrote:

I've seen that the timescale in Aware Stage will be millions of years, then in Awakening Stage thousands of years, and then it keeps diminishing. But what about Microbes and Multicellular? What is the timescale of those two?

My suggestion:
Cellular - 10^7 or 10^8 years
Multicellular - 10^7 or 10^8 years
Aware - 10^7 or 10^6 years
Awakening - 10^5 or 10^4 years
Society - 10^3 or 10^2 years
Industrial - 10 years going down to 1 year as tech progresses
Space - Will vary between 1 year down to fractions of a year

MitochondriaBox wrote:

Armok: God of Blood wrote:

My suggestion:
Cellular - 10^7 or 10^8 years Basically 10 or 100 million years.
Multicellular - 10^7 or 10^8 years Same as above.
Aware - 10^7 or 10^6 years 1 or 10 million years.
Awakening - 10^5 or 10^4 years 10 or 100 thousand years.
Society - 10^3 or 10^2 years 10 or 1,000 years.
Industrial - 10 years going down to 1 year as tech progresses
Space - Will vary between 1 year down to fractions of a year

Sounds neat! It sounds a bit weird to have soldiers spend the same amount of real-world time marching at two points of development in the game despite the in-game difference, but the player's Aware Stage creature would spend a couple thousand years walking around anyway. I wonder how seasons would fit into this (if they're worth the trouble)?

I guess that in Aware Stage millions of years pass only when you are in the organism editor. In the actual game, only pass a couple of years or so between editings (perhaps every year with some number of seasons around 4, every season with a number of days around 4? ). Same for Cellular and Multicellular.

Also, Multicellular time scale should be the same or even shorter than Aware. I mean, the human equivalent would be the evolution from our most recent unicellular ancestor ( around 850 million years ago) to, perhaps, the first vertebrate (around 500 million years ago) so it took 350 million years. On the other hand, Aware took us the last 500 million years. So, Multicellular time scale shouldn't be larger than Aware. (Indeed, Cellular should have the largest time scale, as it took almost 2 billion years for us to get to Multicellular).

Although, now that I think of it, we should spend more time playing Aware than Multicellular ( because is funnier), so, if Aware takes three times more real time than Multicellular, each generation should be significantly less time in Aware.

Okay guys, I know this has already been discussed but I need to be sure: how much bytes is Thrive gonna be? And also how many species will there be on planets?

Sorry for getting off-topic and I don't know if this was discussed before...
But I can't seem to download the new release! I go to the page and it says it's not available...
Can you help me?

Oliveriver wrote:

I've mentioned it before, but the download link often seems to fail for some people because part of the URL is unnecessarily duplicated. This might have something to do with the hyperlink in the release post. For some it repeatedly does this, but others haven't experienced it at all.

For reference, the URL changes from mega.co.nz #!VVYngZLI!Q3imY-eV9kL2W0SIeY2XnhNxDOvdofRbhkrzQqPr1sQ to mega.co.nzmega.co.nz #!VVYngZLI!Q3imY-eV9kL2W0SIeY2XnhNxDOvdofRbhkrzQqPr1sQ .

Check that the URL (of the page itself, not the text in the forum post) looks like the first one and not the second. It's working perfectly fine otherwise as far as I can tell.

EDIT: 500 posts!

Some post's text is dissapearing.