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PostSubject: planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits    planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits  EmptyTue May 15, 2012 4:20 pm

I was watching a tv show with my brother picturing alien life on strange planets, on a close orbit planet, one side of the planet is facing the star, while the other is in complete darkness.
on elliptical orbit planets, the kind that goes close to the star and then really far away from it, are very extreme.
are there also going to be complete desert planets with little pockets of water everywhere?

Now, here's the question. Will life really be able to survive on such extreme planets? and will you be able to create your own orbit in the planet editor?


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PostSubject: Re: planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits    planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits  EmptyTue May 15, 2012 5:31 pm

Depends on the planet. When a planet is tidally locked to a star and the planet has atmosfere, well, on side will be hot and the other cold. The planet will have strong, really strong, winds and thus storms all over the planet. So they need high atmorferic resistence maybe some shock proof skin... It is possible as life in a gas giant, less difficult but difficult.
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PostSubject: Re: planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits    planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits  EmptyTue May 15, 2012 10:36 pm

There was a thread around here (hard to find, I'm sure...)

All right, can't find it, but we did the planet physics for this already. We did Neptune, and we determined that the only strip for habitation is the twilight zone, in between the night and day sides. (No planet "doesn't spin" but there are ones who spin so that the same side always faces the star - kind of like a coin in those coin funnels from the mall, but without all the falling down a hole or accelerating.)

We also determined that life (at least microbe stage) is possible on moons of gas giants. Eliptical planets will depend on whether or not their orbit takes them out of the Goldilocks zone, but as a closer orbit means a more circular one, probably no life will occur.

Any single-biome planet is a dead planet. There is no such thing as a "desert planet," (deserts are stage 1: biomes) if there wasn't enough water and temperature variation to evolve past stage 1, life would have died out to the cellular level because there wouldn't be enough biodiverstity to create any sort of ecosystem. In that case, the planet would never have reached sucession stage 1 and would still be stuck as a barren planet, locked for anything beyond microbes.

Gas giants = no life. There is too much pressure at the tiny, rocky core where any water would be located, and water is life.

Edit: Sorry, the one we did that for is Uranus. (The planet Uranus.)
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PostSubject: Re: planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits    planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits  EmptyWed May 16, 2012 10:03 am

jmc-24 wrote:
I do beileve its covered in this topic. https://thrivegame.canadaboard.net/t501-natural-solar-and-planetary-phenomena
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PostSubject: Re: planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits    planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits  EmptyWed May 16, 2012 10:40 am

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
jmc-24 wrote:
I do beileve its covered in this topic. https://thrivegame.canadaboard.net/t501-natural-solar-and-planetary-phenomena
Yeah, starts about halfway down the first page. You get a cookie.
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Ahaa Thanks, just glad I could help
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PostSubject: Re: planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits    planets with close orbits or elliptical orbits  EmptySun Aug 05, 2012 10:38 am

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:
There was a thread around here (hard to find, I'm sure...)

All right, can't find it, but we did the planet physics for this already. We did Neptune, and we determined that the only strip for habitation is the twilight zone, in between the night and day sides. (No planet "doesn't spin" but there are ones who spin so that the same side always faces the star - kind of like a coin in those coin funnels from the mall, but without all the falling down a hole or accelerating.)

We also determined that life (at least microbe stage) is possible on moons of gas giants. Eliptical planets will depend on whether or not their orbit takes them out of the Goldilocks zone, but as a closer orbit means a more circular one, probably no life will occur.

Any single-biome planet is a dead planet. There is no such thing as a "desert planet," (deserts are stage 1: biomes) if there wasn't enough water and temperature variation to evolve past stage 1, life would have died out to the cellular level because there wouldn't be enough biodiverstity to create any sort of ecosystem. In that case, the planet would never have reached sucession stage 1 and would still be stuck as a barren planet, locked for anything beyond microbes.

Gas giants = no life. There is too much pressure at the tiny, rocky core where any water would be located, and water is life.

Edit: Sorry, the one we did that for is Uranus. (The planet Uranus.)
But see, it could live in the clouds.
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