Organ Design

~sciocont wrote:

Holomanga wrote:

How about some kind of antifreeze manufacturing organ? It would manufacture antifreeze so it could live in frozen biomes.

Also, some kind of motor organ for biological paddlewheels, and an external organ could be a sail.

I'm totally making a boat creature when thrive comes out

First off, who stretched out this page?

Antifreeze can be a product of glands, which would hook up to the circulatory system to keep blood from freezing below 0 degrees- there are a few animals that have natural antifreeze in their fluids.

Not sure about paddlewheels, those you'd have to find some way to make yourself. Sails would be handled in skeletal and skinning. However, water or ink jets, such as those possessed by cephalopods, need to be in the game.

I don't know, it has to be some sort of picture or other link...
Antifreeze lemmings are approved. I don't know if you could have a paddlewheel exactly (rotation past 360 degrees gets complicated by the fact that muscles need to attatch somewhere...) but it's definitely possible to swim by using a tail in a side-to-side, up and down, or propeller-like motion.

This is a bit odd but relates to the caste system; ability to control producing of various castes from specialized reproductive sites? For example one that could be used to produce a small sterile caste that works to benefit the parent. Like a queen ant uses her colony as an extension of herself, to greater or lesser degrees.

Kraeken wrote:

This is a bit odd but relates to the caste system; ability to control producing of various castes from specialized reproductive sites? For example one that could be used to produce a small sterile caste that works to benefit the parent. Like a queen ant uses her colony as an extension of herself, to greater or lesser degrees.

Segregated caste reproduction is a brilliant idea.

Pretty picture, but what does this post have to do with organ design? (Also, please remove the preceeding post about trying to find the reply button. We cannot physically point it out to you from where we are sitting.)

Hmm... Theus, sounds like a good symbiosis thing. There's probably some good material in seperate organs for symbionts, such as the slime-producer of the clownfish (to protect it from it's anemone) and the syrup-glands of trees with guardian ants. [/quote]
Well, cuz We're alltalking about how a creature would handle a hot spring, and this might give some new ideas because, this is a hotspring.....I find it somewhat relevant, otherwise I would not have posted,but I'll let You decide its relevance, afterall I am just a newcomer. Well, I shall wait for Your response, but in the mean time I'll be seeing primordial soup pictiures for the cellular evolution draft. ThankYou.

MeowMan1 wrote:

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

Pretty picture, but what does this post have to do with organ design? (Also, please remove the preceeding post about trying to find the reply button. We cannot physically point it out to you from where we are sitting.)

Hmm... Theus, sounds like a good symbiosis thing. There's probably some good material in seperate organs for symbionts, such as the slime-producer of the clownfish (to protect it from it's anemone) and the syrup-glands of trees with guardian ants.

Well, cuz We're alltalking about how a creature would handle a hot spring, and this might give some new ideas because, this is a hotspring.....I find it somewhat relevant, otherwise I would not have posted,but I'll let You decide its relevance, afterall I am just a newcomer. Well, I shall wait for Your response, but in the mean time I'll be seeing primordial soup pictiures for the cellular evolution draft. ThankYou.

Ah, okay. Next time just mention the connection and you'll be good.

@ Kraeken: Yes. (I remember it being mentioned before but I don't think we did anything with or to it.)

Sorry I'll make it shorter next ime, lol that's a LOT of writing up there...!

Complex feeder mechanism? Connected to digestive tract or not that allows feeding of same species/other species/client or domesticated species? Nipples seem pointless, but not quite, maybe somewhere in the universe they will be vital.

Kraeken wrote:

Complex feeder mechanism? Connected to digestive tract or not that allows feeding of same species/other species/client or domesticated species? Nipples seem pointless, but not quite, maybe somewhere in the universe they will be vital.

Could you explain this in greater detail?

What I'm getting at is a sort of honeydew bug type organ which synthesizes food for other animals in a symbiotic relationship, though more versatile, maybe used to appease predators or help the young, sick, or wounded of their own. An organ that specifically delivers nutrients and or energy to others. Castes within one species could be super specialized for one type of food and feed that food's unique nutrients to differently specialized castes and vice versa

Not really sure if this thread is appropriate, but have we ever delved into Kinesynthetic organisms (I probably made that word up)? As in organisms which could get their energy from movement? Could be a neat concept for constantly windy planets (probably not gas giants) or very turbulent oceans. Such organisms would be sesslie, most likely rooted in someway.

Due to the harsh conditions of these planets it'd be unlikely to have any primary consumers of these organisms.

It's just a suggestion, I'd imagine these organisms would be visual fillers rather than playable organisms, mainly to make lifeless planets full of discovery now and then. Such organisms would have huge sail-like structures to be buffeted by the wind, like those rooster ornaments on barn roofs, or perhaps a wind sock like structure. And they'd easily be able to distribute themselves using spore-like wind dispersal.
Again I'd say these would not be playable, it just wouldn't be an interesting thing to stumble upon on what you thought was a harsh lifeless, dense-atmosphere planet.

It's cool, but I'm not sufficiently rooted in physics to know if it's even possible. Probably not, because of the crazy chemistry of cells, which are LAWK (Life as we know it) but I'm not the team's biochemist.

Kraeken wrote:

What I'm getting at is a sort of honeydew bug type organ which synthesizes food for other animals in a symbiotic relationship, though more versatile, maybe used to appease predators or help the young, sick, or wounded of their own. An organ that specifically delivers nutrients and or energy to others. Castes within one species could be super specialized for one type of food and feed that food's unique nutrients to differently specialized castes and vice versa

Ok, this would just be a product coming from a gland.
@pezz- that's a really cool idea, but I don't think we can back it up enough to include it.

~sciocont wrote:

Kraeken wrote:

What I'm getting at is a sort of honeydew bug type organ which synthesizes food for other animals in a symbiotic relationship, though more versatile, maybe used to appease predators or help the young, sick, or wounded of their own. An organ that specifically delivers nutrients and or energy to others. Castes within one species could be super specialized for one type of food and feed that food's unique nutrients to differently specialized castes and vice versa

Ok, this would just be a product coming from a gland.
@pezz- that's a really cool idea, but I don't think we can back it up enough to include it.

Yeah I was just thinking if there was a system that developed similar to things such as kinetic watches or batteries but understandably these are electronic, not biological.

Would be pretty cool though...
I just got an idea: What if one species rode on another huge species, in return for food, or etc.?
btw would it be possible to see through stuff with certain organs?

Creatures can be transparent, but x-ray vision is a no.

Yeah. Symbionts are go. Those elephant-riding bug-picking birds and dentistfish being obvious examples. Oh, and remoras.

Mysterious_Calligrapher wrote:

Creatures can be transparent, but x-ray vision is a no.

Yeah. Symbionts are go. Those elephant-riding bug-picking birds and dentistfish being obvious examples. Oh, and remoras.

Case in point: The Jewel Caterpillar

WHOA. Ok, so transparent creatures are a go?
What about armor like on a triceratops?

I think an interesting way to go from cellular to multicellular would be am organelle which allowed you to conjugate with other cells and eventually just group together with cells of your species.

Armor, like bone plates? If they are put outside they work like a armor. Exoesqueleton is in the editor already, I think.

Maybe you could merge the crystalizer (that "yet-to-be-scientific-proved" idea I had) with the bone structure (exo or endo) to make even harder bones and "armor".

Sound Membrane: A membrane that if conected to the lung produce sound, if conected to the nervous system works like the ear.

Air Jet: A fish could have a sac like the ones I talked about and use it to "sprint". It is a super evolved swim bladder. The bladder supports more preassure when it reaches a certain point a little tube opens and the air pours outiside the fish's body. The movement would look like a jellyfish. Speaking of wich...

Tentacles: I don't know if they are covered but I know a being can have specilized ones. Reproduction tentacles, poison tentacles, grab tentacles. How are they going to be controled? A use button to each type of tentacle? Drag them around with the mouse? Wich leads me to...

Tails: They can make more than balance, bouce around and look pretty. They can grab things, how would that work? Like the tentacle? Climbing trees or mountains could be much easier with a third-arm tail. Leaving me with... (don't care if you hate it I am enjoing it)

"Jump" Muscle: Not exactly another organ, but if the leg have a certain very strong muscle it would make sense to creature have vary long jumps or stability. A kangaroo or a montain goat are exemples. That is it... for the forum's sake.

just a question and Yes I meant like a bone. Question: could we put hands or feet onto the tail (s) or end of the skeleton like the willosaur from the Spore beta, now I know this isn't Spore but You've got to admit, it started out pretty cool and I think it would be really cool if we could..

Well, when i readed the editor's thread I got that you can add bones and "program" it as a hand, something like that Scio can explain better. This would work even better with the example in the tail question I made.

MeowMan1 wrote:

just a question and Yes I meant like a bone. Question: could we put hands or feet onto the tail (s) or end of the skeleton like the willosaur from the Spore beta, now I know this isn't Spore but You've got to admit, it started out pretty cool and I think it would be really cool if we could..

I like the idea of having a hand on the tail

As long as the environment demands extra grasping, like in a jungle world where your monkey-like species as a tribe learned to hold onto the tree and shoot the bow from a branch

PTFace wrote:

MeowMan1 wrote:

just a question and Yes I meant like a bone. Question: could we put hands or feet onto the tail (s) or end of the skeleton like the willosaur from the Spore beta, now I know this isn't Spore but You've got to admit, it started out pretty cool and I think it would be really cool if we could..

I like the idea of having a hand on the tail

As long as the environment demands extra grasping, like in a jungle world where your monkey-like species as a tribe learned to hold onto the tree and shoot the bow from a branch

i dont see why not?, i bet someone will like to do a realistic Squibbon.

i havent read the whole thread, is someone has suggested Air Sacks?, for floating creatures on gas giants or just for buoyancy.

also mineral optical structures, "Silicate Eyes" like those of Trilobytes. Heat Detection Organs or other ways of flying?

OOh very interesting, I like the air sac idea the most though.
Heat sensors are ofcourse already here on Earth, some snake I think see with heat sensors, so ofcourse we definitely SHOULD include that. We'll have to see whether air sacs are physically possible though, although I don't see how they wouldn't be.

MeowMan1 wrote:

OOh very interesting, I like the air sac idea the most though.
Heat sensors are ofcourse already here on Earth, some snake I think see with heat sensors, so ofcourse we definitely SHOULD include that. We'll have to see whether air sacs are physically possible though, although I don't see how they wouldn't be.

Well, birds have air sacs attacked to thei lungs, so they are lighter.